Genealogy Chat

Ann Thank you forthat. John did name one of his daughter's barbara, but the others were Sarah, James, maria, Hymers, john willie - no Lionel! - oh and Frances Rebecca and George Barbara

Yes - it is john junior's marraige cert. Witness names are not very helpful I'm afraid - Jane Softley and Seter(!) Wilson Colliery horsekeeper was a later occupation of one of john junior's sons. Barbara

I was just about to add it may be HORSEKEEPER, but I've been beaten to it. Anne

Just realised I didn't say that John Robson was 21 when he got married - so birth abt 1860. Derrrh!!!!!! Barbara

Sorry folks - got to go off the boards for a bit - will check back in later to see if anyone has any suggestions! Just had a thought - the marriage certificate is for 'John Robson' to Annie Marie Rowley. The 'John Hymers Robson' I picked up from a good source - the family bible - in Annie Marie's own writing! Thanks for your time. Barbara

John No you weren't stating the obvious. i knew that the hewer was the man with the pick but not what the putter was (better not let OH see that - he still works in a coal mine!) Barbara

Thanks Ann I've looked at the image on Ancestry - which is where I got the 'colliery housekeeper' bit from. RG11/5099 Folio 60, page 5 for reference on the 1881. places of birth are NOT transcribed on this image for the people I'm interested in. Very common names I'm afraid John Hymers Robson (usually just given as John Robson) married Annie Marie Rowley on 3rd December 1881 at Newcastle upon Tyne Registry office. From the certificate his profession is given as Coal Miner. His father was John Robson, again from the certificate, and his profession was given as 'labourer' On the 1891 census, John H Robson's place of birth is given as Holton Shields, and on the 1901 it is given as Bywell - both in Northumberland. So - I'm just wondering if I'm on the right family? Any advice appreciated. Barbara

Stating the obvious (sorry), the hewer is the man with the pick and the putter is the man with the shovel (or strong arms) loading the truck.

Thanks Jackie That gives me some hope I'm on the right family. Barbara

Dear Barbara, On my grandad's marriage cert 1919 his 'Rank or Proffession' is down as' Coal Miner (Putter)' and his father's is down as ' Coal Miner ( Hewer)' . Hope that helps a little bit. Jackie

This may be a silly question but would someone described as a 'Colliery Housekeeper' on the 1881 census be described as a 'labourer' on his son's marraige cert. in December the same year? Also would a 'putter in coal and clay mine' be described as a coal miner on the same certificate? Thanks Barbara