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Lishmans around 1780

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Uncle John

Uncle John Report 23 Jul 2006 21:38

I have a well-documented Lishman family which begins in Cartmel, Lancashire. John (bap. Feb. 1766) married Mary Myers (bap. Oct. 1761) in Cartmel Priory church in Nov. 1786 (verified by others gone before). They had 9 children born in wedlock, again all reasonably well verified, but a potential relative claims there are 2 children born prior to the marriage. The first of these is Mary (May 1783) from whom she claims descent via an illegitimate son Thomas (1809, Lancaster). A later marriage to Mark Irwin is a possibilty. The second child is James (May 1786). I'm more confident about him but he's not relevant to this quest!! The 7th. child in wedlock is Sarah (Dec. 1798, Cartmel). She is said to have had 3 children out of wedlock in Lancaster (Mary 1822, Sarah 1827, Maria 1832) followed by 2 marriages in succession (James Jack, William Marsden/Marston). She joined the Mormon trek with her 3 daughters around 1835 and they all ended up eventually in Grantsville, Utah. All of this is well-documented on OneWorldTree (though bargepoles feature in my thinking). If anybody can check any of this out I'd be extremely grateful. On the other hand, I'm seriously thinking about buying BIVRI (see my other thread) and I will quite understand if you can't be bothered. J

Elaine

Elaine Report 23 Jul 2006 21:44

Have possibly found Thomas on the IGI THOMAS LISHMAN Male Event(s): Birth: 12 NOV 1806 Christening: 07 DEC 1806 Saint Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Parents: Mother: MARY LISHMAN Extracted record.

Elaine

Elaine Report 23 Jul 2006 21:45

again from the IGI MARK IRWIN Male Family Marriages: Spouse: MARY LISHMAN Family Marriage: 17 NOV 1811 Saint Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Jeannie

Jeannie Report 23 Jul 2006 21:46

There is a posting on Rootschat offering the BIRVI Ver 2 for £12.00 + postage. Rgds, Jeanne

Merry

Merry Report 23 Jul 2006 21:47

There's a submitted entry for Mary Myers, dau of Mary Myers, in 1783. Will look on BIVRI for this..... Merry

Merry

Merry Report 23 Jul 2006 21:48

Nope, it's not on there.....Sorry! Merry

Elaine

Elaine Report 23 Jul 2006 21:55

If you want to send me your email address have saved all the Lishman christenings and marriages in Lancashire, recorded on the BIVRI.

Uncle John

Uncle John Report 23 Jul 2006 22:06

Elaine Your 2 sightings (Thomas birth and Irwin marriage) look highly probable. I'm not too concerned about what then happened to Thomas - I have a whole branch of his descendants who may or may not belong to me. They were paper-makers who moved around Lancashire and Westmorland and then decamped to Gloucestershire. I'll take a rain-check on your kind offer of the Lishman extract for the time being; there are thousands of them and I can only take them in small doses. Jeanne Thanks for the pointer to RootsChat. I'll have a look. GONE - damn!! Other helpful souls My tree runneth over with submitted records, thank you.

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 23 Jul 2006 22:28

John - John - John.....WHY are you bothering with submitted records? Have I taught you nothing???!!! OC

Uncle John

Uncle John Report 23 Jul 2006 22:59

Sorry to cause apoplexy in the OC dept. What I meant to say was that I now steer clear of submitted records.