Genealogy Chat

I was at the Guild Hall a few weeks ago, but that's no good to you now!! Does Jean go there sometimes?

Yep Joy, St Botolphs are at the Guild Hall & St Pancras at the LMA:)

David - thinking about St Botolphs, it would seem that from www.history.ac.uk/gh/parrec.htm the parish registers are kept at the Guildhall. Maybe someone going to the Guildhall could have a look for you? Not sure about Pancras - may be there or at the LMA? Joy

Hi Anne It just says no occupation! But then that seems to be quite common with deaths in infirmaries or workhouses. The informant was just someone whose address was given as the infirmary - not a relation. Hiya Julie I do have those ones - not sure if they tie in anywhere or not yet:) Thanks:)

and this?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARY ANN STRONG Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 06 MAY 1803 Christening: 28 AUG 1803 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM STRONG Family Mother: ANN julie

hiya, have you seen this???# 1. GEORGE STRACHAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 28 OCT 1832 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England Marriages: Spouse: ESTHER WILLING Family Marriage: 28 OCT 1832 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England julie

So on the death certificate in your first message what does it say in the 'occupation' box? It would usually say wife of ......, or widow of ....... Does it say who the informant is - presumably someone medical? Anne

Thanks for that Joy - will bear him in mind although I haven't yet got a baptism for Alexander - the baptisms for St Botolphs are absent from the IGI for the years I want and it seems that extremely possible siblings are baptised there. JEANETTE!!! Ta muchly;))

Hi Jess Yep got him thanks. But can't find his parents anywhere. They would have been in the Pancras/Greys Inn Lane area and I'm sure that there are sections of that missing. Can't find Eleanor on the 1871 either though.

presume you have found alexander Jnr in 1861 - he's there, married

Hi Jean Sorry - knew I'd missed some info. Ellen Harriet Carr's birth cert has mother Ann Carr formerly Strachan. I think the Ellen recorded as mother is actually mother-in-law (ie grandmother to the children Hi Julie Thanks:) Haven't got Alexander's death yet but think I have found it in Holborn in 1870. There doesn't seem to be a marriage for Charles and Ann (who I think is the Nancy on the 1851 - Ann's birthplace varies) but a few of the family downwards didn't marry or married very late:)

I think you are looking for a daughter born shortly before/after the 1831 marriage, to be the married Carr, although admittedly the dates are tight. Ellen Strachan, Grandmother, could of course be HIS mother, not hers and its all a coincidence of dates and birthplace. There is a ten year gap between the marriage and the first census you have - ten years could have produced a lot of children you dont know about! OC

hiya david, for what its worth, it looks like your on the right trail, it all seems to tie in very nicely, have you found a death for the husband?? alexander?? and have you got the marriage cert of Nancy/Anne to the Carr?? does this shed any light on the situation?? Julie

David..if Ellen is grandmother to Chas Carr 1845 or Anna Carr 1849 one of them must be the child of one of the Strachen children and none of them seem old enough to have a child born 1845 or 1849.... .......or am I missing something. Jean

Eleanor Jenkins Ford b 14 Jul 1809 bapt 3 Sep 1809 St Lukes Old Street Finsbury (IGI) 12 Sep 1831 St Lukes Old Street Finsbury - Marriage of Eleanor Jenkins Ford & Alexander Strong (IGI) 1841 census St Leonard Shoreditch Alexander Strawn abt 1803 Middlesex, Ellenor Strawn abt 1813 Middlesex Margaret Strawn abt 1832 Middlesex Henry Strawn abt 1834 Middlesex Alexander Strawn abt 1836 Middlesex Andrews Strawn abt 1838 Middlesex William Strawn abt 1841 Middlesex 1851 census St Pancras Alexander Strachan abt 1802 City, Middlesex Head Helen Strachan abt 1807 Clerkenwell, Middlesex Wife Margaret Strachan abt 1832 St Lukes, Middlesex Daughter Henry Strachan abt 1834 St Luke, Middlesex Son Alexander Strachan abt 1837 St Lukes, Middlesex Son William Strachan abt 1839 Shoreditch, Middlesex Son Nancy Strachan abt 1848 Whitechapel, Middlesex Daughter John Strachan abt 1850 St Pancras, Middlesex Son 1861/71 - missing/ can’t find 1881 Islington Chas. Carr abt 1845 Clerkenwell Head Anna Carr abt 1849 St Lukes Wife Anna M. Carr abt 1868 St Pancras Daughter Elizth. Carr abt 1866 St Pancras Daughter Chas. Carr abt 1871 Clerkenwell Son Wm.J. Carr abt 1876 Islington Son Ellen H. Carr abt 1878 Islington Daughter Fredk. Carr Islington Son Ellen Strong abt 1808 St Lukes Grandmother

Received certificate for death of Eleanor Strachen, lately of Islington, aged 70 at Islington Infirmary, Upper Holloway on 9th April 1886. There's no mention of marital status and the informant is not a relative. I am sooo sure it's her and that everything is beginning to tie in after what seems like a Holy Grail of a search. If someone would be kind enough to read the info through for me and give their opinion I'd be very grateful as I can no longer think:)) Strachan can (and in this family is) pronounced Strawn.