Genealogy Chat

Your grandmothers death was in 1941.......Ive pm'd the details....maybe she was in convalescence somewhere....for those 4 years ,but dint pull through,or had what they now call post menapausal depression.........they wouldnt have been as understanding perhaps in those days,it was wartime after all-she isnt classed a s a civilian casualty either so that angle is ruled out.

So it looks like the family worked on the canals,and in the North West area. With the references to Liverpool and Cheshire you will find they could have used several canals in the area,as well as travelling south to Stoke and maybe Birmingham. It is possible to find which canal carrying company the boat belonged to,but needs a bit of research.The bouts were registered individually,both by name and a registration numbewr,and many of the records for the companies and the boats still survive. A lot of canal transport in the area would have worked 'the salt'.A lot of the salt and lime used was transported from Middlewich. Some old working boats still survive and there is a register of historic working boats that are still owned today. If memory serves the website can be found by googling 'hnboc' Glen

thanx for all your input. ada kay married william lyons in 1933. am awaiting their marriage cert to confirm their parents. carolexx

Isaac aged 1 is also with them in 1891. Gwyn

1901father Isaac Kay Isaac Kay Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Married Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Wheelock Near Landbach, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Huskisson Dock Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG13/3472 Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: Stanley Folio: 131 occupation Canal bargeman- on vessel named Stanley

so what is ada's married surname-that way I can have a look in the death index.

1891 Annie Kay abt 1865 Burleston, Staffordshire, England Mate's Wife Appleton Cheshire Isaac Kay abt 1865 Wherlock, Cheshire, England Mate Appleton Cheshire Sarah A Kay abt 1888 Middlewich, Cheshire, England Mate's Daughter Appleton Cheshire address canal boat Paragon Isaac occ. waterman (mate)

Some things to remember......... 1) not everyone was on the census.....war,travel,and sheer unwillingness prevents us from having everyone pinned down 2) never assume anything in genealogy-family stories are often embellished,and sometimes simply not true...dont take them as gospel. Ada's surname - Kay - was that her married surname?

As there are children of 11,and 14 you may be able to find the family group in the previous census. Is this the correct family in 1901, ....for reference? Ada Kay abt 1899 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Annie Kay abt 1867 Barlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Manchester Lancashire Isaac Kay abt 1890 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Manchester Lancashire Sarah Kay abt 1887 Middlewich, Cheshire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Gwyn

i have looked through the 1901 census and found what i belive to be my grandmother aged 2. the other people listed as living in the household are mother-head-annie kay-married a brother isdaac aged 11 and sister sarah aged 14-salt packer. there is no mention of a father living there. how would i go about tracing further? i am awaiting my grandfathers marriage cert to estabilish some more facts. also my grandmother ada kay was supposed to have died in 1937 giving birth to my mother, but there is no record of a death cert anywhere? grandad also went to war but he wouldnt have been sent if he was sole parent of my mum? quite intriguing, but im very new to this and would appreciate any tips. thanx