Genealogy Chat

I am trying to locate some details regarding a WILLIAM BANKS. I have received a marriage certificate for his son FRANCIS (born 1827 in Bilston, Wolverhampton, West Mids) and married in 1847 to Martha Hinton - which clearly gives William as the father. I also know that William was married to ANN - I have found her details on the 1841 census (and onwards) having remarried to Abraham Chadwick (living in Stoke on Trent - along with her son Francis and Martha). I can only therefore assume that William had died prior to 1841. Is it usual for marriage certificates to contain deceased fathers details?? I do not know the best way forward now in order to locate details re William (ie, his date of birth, death, etc) as well as when and where Francis was baptised. Any ideas??

yes quite normal - and it doesnt always say deceased either.

Have you checked the IGI on familysearch.org for them? There is a Francis but baptised either Manchester or Preston which doesnt fit with your guys place of birth - I think parents are a William and Ann Price. You may want to have a trawl on there

I don't think you said whether Mrs Banks was still in Wolverhampton in 1841, but if she was then one of these could be her husband. Do you know the year of birth of their youngest child? Deaths Jun 1839 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BANKS William Wolverhampton 17 217 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1840 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BANKS William Wolverhampton 17 241 Merry

Merry, Their youngest child was Francis, born 1827 in Bilston. William's wife Ann was not living in Wolverhampton in 1841 but in Stoke on Trent.

Anymore ideas???

If William's wife was still of child bearing age when she had her last child with William, then it strikes me that he may have died close to 1827, rather than close to 1841. If he had died later she would have had more children! So.....Bilston Parish registers??? I think there were two possible churches.....Bilston St Mary and Bilston St Leonard. Merry

Here's the William Banks burials from the National Burial Index. These are the ones for Staffordshire from 1825-1860 (I just didn't bother to restrict the results!) 26 Feb 1826 William BANKS 54 Staffs Stonnall, St Peter 31 Jan 1826 William BANKS 67 Staffs Bilston, St Leonard 12 Feb 1827 William BANKS 37 Staffs Stone, St Michael 22 Apr 1827 William BANKS 25 Staffs Bloxwich, All Saints 4 Oct 1829 William BANKS 22 Staffs Weston upon Trent, St Andrew 13 Feb 1829 William BANKS 66 Staffs Longton, St John 6 Nov 1830 William BANKS 40 Staffs Rugeley, St Augustine 22 Apr 1830 William BANKS 66 Staffs Rugeley, St Augustine ********** 9 Feb 1832 William BANKS 28 Staffs Bilston, St Leonard********** 10 Jan 1834 William BANKS 2 Staffs Stone, St Michael 28 May 1834 William BANKS 83 Staffs Codsall, St Nicholas 22 Feb 1835 William BANKS 49 Staffs Bilston, Swan Bank Wesleyan Methodist 6 Jan 1836 William BANKS 10w Staffs Bilston, Swan Bank Wesleyan Methodist 5 Feb 1837 William BANKS 2+ Staffs Bilston, St Leonard 11 Apr 1837 William BANKS 25 Staffs Great Barr, St Margaret 29 Oct 1837 William BANKS 71 Staffs Hanley, St John Not all parishes are covered, but I think the one I've marked looks possible (having looked to see how old Ann was in 1851). Stoke upon Trent doesn't seem to be covered :o(( Merry

Merry, Thanks for your help!! Which web site are you getting the death index details from? I have tried the IGI on the church of later day saints website but didn't get half of the responses you did. Also is the number ref the age at death? (sorry if i'm being a bit thick here!) I did manage to find some more details about Ann's 2nd marriage on the IGI which was to a gentleman named Abraham Chadwick which happened in 1833 in Stoke on Trent, so I would assume William had died sometime before that date. Regards

I have the NBI on CD, but you can also access it on the pay per view site Family History Online. Yes, 28 is the age at death for the highlighted entry. As it's only an index you may find more helpful info by then checking the actual PR's......generally (for instance) the NBI doesn't give the parents names for dec'd children which may well be on the PR's. Merry