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Maud

Maud Report 6 Jul 2006 14:03

I `m sure there will be someone who will know the answer to my question. Using the 1841 census, I find that one of my ancestor`s occupation has been given as an Sp.Brassfounder Now I know that Brassfounder means someone who cast brass, but what does the Sp.stand for, this is the first instance that I have come across this, in all the other census, he is just given as a Brassfounder, but on the 1841 he is Sp.Brassfounder and also his brother who is aged 13, this made me think that perhaps an apprentice was being described, but would the 20 year also have been an apprentice?

Heather

Heather Report 6 Jul 2006 14:06

If it is in a different writing it may well be someone categorising the type of work. If you give us the details some of us can have a go at checking it out?

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Jul 2006 14:16

It could mean Specialist Brassfounder?

Merry

Merry Report 6 Jul 2006 15:58

couldn't be Ap, not Sp??? Apprentice brassfounder?? Merry

Salty

Salty Report 6 Jul 2006 19:33

Where was it maud, Could be ships brassfounder, making ships propellars. Rod

Maud

Maud Report 6 Jul 2006 19:36

Thank you Heather/Grampa & Merry Monty for your suggestions. I do not have have the copy of the original writing of the census, it is taken from Ancestry on the transcription of the Scottish census, and the wording given is definately Sp.Brassfounder so wonder now if it has been transcribed correctly? although would an apprentice be as old as 20 years? I thought it may have meant specialist, but doubt if a 13 year old would have been a specialist!

Maud

Maud Report 6 Jul 2006 19:39

Just seen the other suggestion about ships, could well have been in a shipyard especially the area they were living in, so that is one possibility, thanks

Merry

Merry Report 6 Jul 2006 19:48

Apprenticeships were usually 7 years and taken up aged 13 or 14ish......(not saying that's what your record is, though!) Merry

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 6 Jul 2006 19:52

Ordinary Apprenticeships were for seven years. Paupers Apprenticeships were for 14 years. Ordinary Apprentices could get their 'papers' at age 21, Paupers not until they were 25. This is England - don't know the system in Scotland, sorry. OC

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Jul 2006 20:35

By 'Specialist' it could mean Brassfounders who were out of the Mainstream. For example, casting Statues, Models, Horse Brasses etc. as opposed to the heavy Founding like Bells.

Maud

Maud Report 7 Jul 2006 13:10

Thanks Gampa et al, looks like Specialist could perhaps be the meaning, its difficult to know though, so will just have to accept this for the time being anyway. Thanks for your offers of help, it is appreciated