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Could someone please have a look on the 1891 census for me to see if these 2 are still together and if they are husband and wife. I found this on the IGI site, 1881 census Mary FLETCHER Niece M Female 22 Derby, England Frederick FLETCHER Wife M Male 26 Derby, England Lab (Railway) ............................. Frederick Birth Year <1855> Birthplace Derby, England Age 26 Occupation Lab (Railway) Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household Mary FLETCHER Relation Wife .......................................... Mary Birth Year <1859> Birthplace Derby, England Age 22 Occupation Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household Mary FLETCHER Relation Niece ............................................. Dwelling 36 Morledge Census Place Derby All Sts, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341815 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3407 / 12 Page Number 24 ............................................. I also found a William Brown listed as a seperate household (i looked at next household) but the same address William BROWN Head U Male 58 Findern, Derby, England Labourer No Occupation Frederick is with his grandparents and family in 1861 , i dont know where he is in 1871 and dont know why he is the wife in 81 Would someone take a look for me please Sylvia

On the actual image, it does say Neice and Wife, and Mary is listed first which is unusual. Where it says 'wife' for Fred. however, the word Head has been crossed out. It is indeed a puzzle. I can send you the image if you pm me yopur email addy. Liz

On the 1881 census actual page for Frederick it says, ''Wife of Niece'', not just ''wife''. So, it should just say Husband of niece! Merry

Looking at the image again, first is listed: William Brown abt 1823 Findern, Derbyshire, England Head Derby All Sts Derbyshire Then Mary, described as Neice, presumably to William, and then Frederick who has Head crossed out and Wife of Neice inserted. I think it must have been a moment of confusion on the part of the enumerator. Liz

This may be them in 1891: Ann E Fletcher abt 1889 St Alkmunds, Derbyshire, England Daughter All Saints Derbyshire Frederick Fletcher abt 1855 St Alkmunds, Derbyshire, England Head All Saints Derbyshire Mary Fletcher abt 1859 St Alkmunds, Derbyshire, England Wife All Saints Derbyshire William Fletcher abt 1891 St Alkmunds, Derbyshire, England Son All Saints Derbyshire Merry

Sylvia It's a veru confusing image. for a start they're actually living at number 36+37, but this has been obscured by an ink blob. They are in the same household schedule as WIlliam brown and he is listed as head mary is shown as Niece (to William) Frederick is down as '??? of niece' but above this is the word Head crossed out. The ??? could be very well be wife - it looks kind of like it - but I wouldn't be 100% Both mary and Frederick are listed as married.

Thank you Liz have pmed you

I had thought that Mary could have been Williams niece too Thank you too Merry and Zoe

Thank you to those members that helped me with this, i found the marriage on Hugh Wallis today and Marys maiden name was Brown