Genealogy Chat

Christine, sorry, but how are you sure the 1901 boy is the right one please? And does he have any middle name? Does his dad have a middle name? On the 1908 marriage cert was William a marine? Re the Butler Reggie kindly found - you just enter the info for him in a census search - do you have ancestry? Oh I see, you mean though married he is on his own in the census - in service I guess. Well, on the 1891 you could enter the details that are shown on the 1901 re his birth year, place of birth etc. Re National Archives documents on line - just google it - they have some service info - Im never sure if a Marine is army or navy (I shall get shot for that shant I?) but I believe is navy. Ive entered William Smith born Camberwell into the search and the only possible one that came up - all the others were too early, was this: Description Name Smith, William James Official Number: L13940 Place of Birth: Camberwell, London Date 15 April 1902 Catalogue reference ADM 188/1015 Do you know if William had a second name?

Reg It seems the one from Dorset is the favourite as Grandad William was training in the Marines aboard the 'Agincourt' according to the 1901 census. As it states that John Smith (Butler) was married,how do I find his family? Sorry to be a pain, relative newbie !!!

To Reggie Harvey The only info I have on John comes from Williams marriage certificate dated 1908 which shows John as deceased. Thank you for your help

To Heather Positve Thinker Why do I find NA records. I have a 1901 census showing William as Crew member. Born c 1885 Camberwell. Thank you for your interest any help much appreciated

This one in 1901 is a retired butler............ John Smith abt 1842 Bolton le Willows, Yorkshire, England Head Caton Lancashire View Record Sarah Ann Smith abt 1843 Keighley, Yorkshire, England Caton Lancashire You can search by occupation on the official 1901 site................ Reg

This John is a Butler, and he is 'married' (1901 census) Anthony C Cooke abt 1826 Owston, Yorkshire, England Brother East Stoke Dorset View Record Susan Gale abt 1877 Puddletown, Dorset, England Servant East Stoke Dorset View Record Emily Harrer abt 1825 Owston, Yorkshire, England Head East Stoke Dorset View Record Oliver C Harrer abt 1850 Wheldrake, Yorkshire, England Son East Stoke Dorset View Record Jane Minterne abt 1884 Hemington, Somerset, England Servant East Stoke Dorset View Record Hannah Robertson abt 1832 North Runcton, Norfolk, England Servant East Stoke Dorset View Record Fanny Roles abt 1883 Winterbourne Abbas, Dorset, England Servant East Stoke Dorset View Record John Smith abt 1853 Lincolnshire, England Servant East Stoke Dorset View Record Ernest Vallas abt 1885 Hazelbury, Somerset, England Servant East Stoke Dorset Reg

Oh dear, William and John Smith! In the 1901 what was his place of birth? Did it say born 1885? He would only be 16 and in the marines? Have you looked at NA records?

Hi Grandfathers name William Smith. Lived 160 Portland Road Kensington at time of marriage to Mary Beadle in 1908.Tried Ancestry but cannot find William with a father called John.

Grandfathers name please .... Elaine ;-) Have you searched through all the Birth indexes looking for possible's ? Have you checked the 1891 census to see if he was still at home with parents ?? Where did he get married ... and what address did he give on the marriage cert ? ... is his age at marriage consistent with being born in 1885 ?

My grandfather was born in 1885,I found that he was on the Agincourt, Royal Marines in 1901, how can I confirm his birthdate, He married in 1908 wedding certificate says his father was John and was a butler. Tried Ancestry no luck HELP please