Genealogy Chat

Gwen I don't know which of the forces he was or indeed whether they were british forces. With the original spelling of the name he could be from anywhere. The address listed when he got married was a boarding address and there was a marine clerk or something with prussian connection two doors away. On the 1881 census, his wife and two children were living with her family and she was recorded on that census as married. It was only on the 1891 census that she is listed as a widow. I cannot find any death references for the name between 1881 and 1891. He had a son called John Patrick and I can't find anything further on him either. His daughter Mary Ann married my great grandfather Peter Black and his wife is recorded on 1901 census as living with as living with Peter and her daughter Mary Ann. There is no sign of her son John Patrick anywhere after 1891. I have checked death indexes between those years and not found him. A puzzle for sure. I shall carry on regardless. Many thanks for all your help. Lyn x x

If he married in 1871 after the census and died before the 1881 census then he will not be on a census. He may have been out of the country if he was a mariner. Gwen

Do you know whether he was in the royal navy or merchnat navy because you check those reocrds? Gwen

It is on Ancestry when you click to see the other on the page for marriages it must be mistranscribed Gwen

Where is that Gwen? WAISIUS? I have a copy of the marriage cert and it is def WAISNIS on that. Lyn x x

I notice for the marriage of Henry to Mary the surname is spelt Waisuis Gwen

I have seen that one re John Patrick. The problem is that I don't know where Henry was born only that his father's name was John. There is a variation in the spellings from WAISNIS to WISENESS. I don't even know that Henry was born in this country. The very fact that he is a mariner could mean that he was born outside of the UK and came to UK/Liverpool as a result of his occupation. Anything that has been available on Ancestry*co*uk has been checked but I cannot find Henry on any censuses. He married in 1871 and the address on the wedding cert is presumably where he was boarding whilst in Liverpool. By 1881 his wife Mary Ann Whitty is living with her family and recorded as married and by 1891 census she is recorded as the head and a widow living with her two children John Patrick and Mary Ann WISENESS and her brother Walter Whitty. This is a case of CONFUSED(.)COM lol :) Lyn x

where was Henry born?

This is John Patrick on the 1881 census have you seen this before? Catherine Whitty abt 1853 Ireland Sister Liverpool Lancashire Mary Ann Whitty abt 1800 Ireland Mother Liverpool Lancashire Walter Whitty abt 1854 Ireland Brother Liverpool Lancashire William Whitty abt 1840 Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire John P. Wiseness abt 1873 Lpool Son Liverpool Lancashire A. Wiseness abt 1849 Ireland Sister Liverpool Lancashire Mary A. Wiseness abt 1874 Lpool Liverpool Lancashire Gwen

I am having so much trouble with the name WAISNIS. I now know that my ancestor Henry Waisnis's father was John. The only place Henry is found is in the marriage index in 1871 when he was 22 years old. He had a son also called Henry who was born in 1878 in Liverpool, but the spelling had changed to WISENESS. He had two other children - Mary Ann my GGrandmother and a son called John Patrick registered in birth index as WISENESS. I can't find John Patrick anywhere else after 1891. John Patrick appears to have been named after the two grandfathers - Mary's father was Patrick Whitty. From the marriage cert for Henry and Mary Ann Whitty, I have found out that Henry, who is recorded as a Mariner/Seaman had a father called John WAISNIS. Unfortunately for me, the address on the cert for Henry at the time of the wedding is a boarding address. I don't know the origin of the name and whether or not Ancestry*com would produce any further info. Henry was born in 1849 so I would presume that his father would have been born around 1829 or earlier, where I don't know. Any help would be soooo apprecaited. Regards, Lyn

post the details and we can see if we can find out what you need Gwen

Does anybody have access to this and if so could you check up some info for me please? Pretty please?! Lyn x x