Genealogy Chat

I wonder if one of you kind people can help me. From 1861 census: Alfred Bird abt 1849 Cranbrook, Kent, England Son Benenden Kent Caroline Bird abt 1861 Benenden, Kent, England Daughter Benenden Kent Henry Bird abt 1816 Gransbury, Suffolk, England Head Benenden Kent Henry Bird abt 1852 Maidstone, Kent, England Son Benenden Kent Mary Ann Bird abt 1819 Hartley, Hampshire, England Wife Benenden Kent (please excuse formatting) Whether its the weather or just my brain going but I can't find this family on 1851 or 1841 census. (I have a suspicion couple were together in 1841). I would be really grateful for any pointers. Rob

For reference this is 1861 Henry Bird abt 1816 Gransbury, Suffolk, England Head Benenden Kent Mary Ann Bird abt 1819 Hartley, Hampshire, England Wife Benenden Kent Alfred Bird abt 1849 Cranbrook, Kent, England Son Benenden Kent Henry Bird abt 1852 Maidstone, Kent, England Son Benenden Kent Caroline Bird abt 1861 Benenden, Kent, England Daughter Benenden Kent Heather

Have you ruled this family out? Mum and dad's birthplaces don't match with 1861 Alfred Bird abt 1848 Maidstone, Kent, England Son Maidstone Kent Charlotte Bird abt 1844 Maidstone, Kent, England Daughter Maidstone Kent Elizabeth Bird abt 1840 Marden, Kent, England Daughter Maidstone Kent Harriet Bird abt 1846 Maidstone, Kent, England Daughter Maidstone Kent Henry Bird abt 1812 Bochesten, Kent, England Lodger Maidstone Kent Mary Bird abt 1816 Marden, Kent, England Wife Maidstone Kent Heather

Heather you are wonderful - That's them - other details tie in. Thank you very much Rob