Genealogy Chat

Thanks Christine. Think you're right, Hattie sounds like a good bet. Am thinking Maria for 'Yiya'? Not even had that glass of wine. I was thinking all you folks with lovely distictive names like Thirza in your trees were lucky but on second thoughts the more unusual names are so often mistranscribed perhaps it causes more problems than it solves. Right, bed time for little girls. Nighty-night folks H.

Another aside for Helen Rowlands ... I thought Hattie was most likely because (like that example I gave), if a child gets hold of one consonant, they sometimes repeat it, so the T from the middle of Hattie would get used as a starting consonant, in the same way as the K from Rackett got used to make Kackitt. Christine

I'd never heard of Thirza till I came across it in a novel. I've found several on censuses, though none in my family. It's clearly gone out of fashion, a bit like Kezia. nell

Yeh, I suspect you're right Christine. The number of garble options I come up with will probably depend on whether I've had a couple of glasses of wine first! I did have in my head, I don't know from where, that Tat/Tatt might be a pet name for Elizabeth? Yiya has me completely stumped though,.... Eileen maybe...? Hmmm, need the wine tonight to try it out! H.

Tatt and Yiya sound like baby-garblings of names when they're still learning how to get their mouth-muscles to move in the right way. My husband's g-grandmother was given a family bible at her marriage from her ''Aunt Kackitt'' - whose surname was Rackett. I suggest you run through in your mind just what could get garbled into those sounds. Hattie (Harriet) - Tatt(ie)? Christine

TATT and YIYA anyone? My mother recalls an Aunty 'Tatt' and an Aunty 'Yiya'. They were actually great aunts of some sort although she can't recall how because of the number of multiple marriages in that part of the family. I don't know how they were spelt and they could be pet names for obscure, forgotten family reasons but I wondered if anybody had any idea what they might be pet names for. If it's any help the family lived on the Wales/Shropshire borders then. Don't know why I mention that but somehow Yiya feels Welsh.....maybe...?

From www.thinkbabynames .com: The girl's name Thirza is related to Tirzah. The girl's name Tirzah is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is 'delight, pleasantness, cypress tree.' Biblical: Tirzah is the name of a city of Israeli kings and was also the name of the first woman to inherit property from her father; she was one of the daughters of Zelophehad who asked for and received an inheritance. In the movie 'Ben Hur', Juda's sister was named Tirzah. Tirzah has 11 variant forms: Thersa, Thirsa, Thirshka, Thirza, Thirzah, Thursa, Thurza, Tierza, Tirza, Tirzha and Tyrzah. Liz

Oh boo hoo thats my idea out the window then...thought it might be short for elizabeth....never mind back to square one lol

Merry (as always) is right. It's origin is Hebrew and I believe it means 'sweet natured' Sheila

I believe it's a name in it's own right. It's Hebrew, but doesn't mean the person was Jewish. Merry

Does anyone know if the name THIRZA is short for anything? janet