Genealogy Chat

Hi Lindy that is a very good idea,why didn`t I think of that? Thank you Sylvia.

these are deaths of ellen newsham (clerkenwell is a district of middlesex ) Deaths Sep 1851 NEWSHAM Ellen * 3 1 Deaths Mar 1851 Newsam Ellen Jane Clerkenwell 3 96 Deaths Dec 1854 News_n Ellen Clerkenwell 1b 571 Deaths Dec 1860 Newsome Ellen * * * not much help as some have no districts but might help have you thought of phoning the gro and explaining the situation . on her marriage cert her fathers surname is the same spelling as hers . ask them to do a check for you love linda x x

well that puts paid to that one if you have her marriage cert then it cant be emma can it love linda x

sylvia i agree with jim that the 1851 and 1861 family are the same and they do fit with your other dates as merry said different combinations of names - sarah jane - emma jane - i suppose it just depends on who is answering the numerators questions. i have an aunt who was margaret / maggie and then polly and that threw me. love linda x

death Emma Newsham 1854 Apr-May-Jun Brentford Middlesex

Both these children appear to be registered 1851 census View Record Ellen Newsam abt 1850 New Brentford, Middlesex, England Daughter New Brentford Middlesex View Record Hannah Newsam abt 1821 New Brentford, Middlesex, England Wife New Brentford Middlesex View Record William Newsam abt 1816 Preston, Lancashire, England Head New Brentford Middlesex View Record Willm Henry Newsam abt 1848 New Brentford, Middlesex, England Son New Brentford Middlesex

Hi Lindy, I found these. William Newsam 1848 Mar. V.3 P 3 Brentford Ellen Newsam 1850 Jun. V 3 P5 I think Ellen must have died as she is not on any census after 1851 Sylvia. Sorry, these are older sibs, not younger. Ooops.

sylvia you say you have the names of her younger siblings could you let us have a look at them and ages if pos love linda x

I must say many, many thanks to everyone for the help you have given. This genealogy is a funny old business. I have lived in Hammersmith for over 30 years and only found out yesterday that my Gtgrandparents married in the local church here. I can see the spire from my window! I was born miles away, in Brighton. Are we subconciously drawn back to our roots? Good hunting everyone, Sylvia.

it's possible, esp as ''Emma Jane'' is a sort of ''known combination''. My ancestor was ''Jane'' everywhere from age 3 (on a census) through more censuses, two marriages, 20 years in an asylum, death and burial. But her birth cert name was Sarah. Another known combination - Sarah Jane, which just happenes to be my name! Merry

I cannot find a birth but i have this family in several census all with different spellings. 1861 census View Record Hannah Newsome abt 1821 Brentford, Middlesex, England Wife New Brentford Middlesex View Record Henry Newsome abt 1859 Brentford, Middlesex, England Son New Brentford Middlesex View Record Jane Newsome abt 1853 Brentford, Middlesex, England Daughter New Brentford Middlesex View Record Maria Newsome abt 1851 Brentford, Middlesex, England Daughter New Brentford Middlesex View Record William Newsome abt 1815 Preston, Lancashire, England Head New Brentford Middlesex View Record William Newsome abt 1848 Brentford, Middlesex, England Son New Brentford Middlesex

Thank you Merry, I have double checked indexes on ancestry and 1837 to make sure. I will do as you suggest. Laura thank you but it`s not her, she was born in Brentford. Their is however an Emma Newsham b. Brentford at the right time and I wondered if they changed her name after registering. Is this plausible? Sylvia

laura i think we were typing at the same time - both found the same one though love linda x

Name: Jane Newsham Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Liverpool (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 196 (click to see others on page) could this be her love linda x

When ordering certs from the GRO, always use the spelling used in the index, even if it is wrong (if you are looking at transcribed indexes, such as FreeBMD, always check the actual page too). Then if there is any altercation when they come to send the cert, the ball will be in your court as you ordered as per their indexes! Merry

I want to get my Gtgrandmas birth cert but cant find her registered. Jane Newsham c1853 name is Newsham on marriage and fathers name also Newsham. I`ve decided to get one of the younger siblings birth certs to get MMN. However, they are both registered as Newsam. Should I use the surname given even though the parents names may be spelt differently? Will this cause a prob. with GRO? Many thanks Sylvia.