Genealogy Chat

a better idea (hold on this is my first attempt at cut and paste - so fingers crossed

Isaiah Hately (should probably be hateful.) I want you to talk me out of this please (lie if you must) because he isn't even a direct ancestor, he's the brother-in-law of my grgrand. Born 1842 Dudley found birth and christening on LDS site (the only one ever in my family) Father Joseph Mother Sarah Married Julia Lee in Dudley in 1863 Nowhere on 1851 or 1861 as Isaiah in all counties. Nowhere on 1871 with Julia but their son is with her parents in Durham shown as born Liverpool. All nice and cosy in Durham in 1881,1891, and 1901 My idea. Assume the father Joseph died and Sarah remarried so Isaiah could be under the wrong family name and his first name so garbled that it could be anything on the transcripts. Answer to problem - search on no first name and no family name with a +- of 5 years in all counties. please, PLease, PLEASE talk me out of this, I wont live long enough and my directs should be more important!!!! Anne

I can't access the censuses properly - but in 1861 how about - Isaac Handley abt 1843 Dudley, Worcestershire, England relationship city Staffordshire & 1851 - Isaac Hadley abt 1845 location relationship city Worcestershire 1871 - Julia Hadley abt 1842 Shropshire, England relationship city Worcestershire Isaac Hadley abt 1845 Dudley, Worcestershire, England relationship city Worcestershire or Isaac Hadley abt 1844 Dudley, Worcestershire, England relationship city Worcestershire

Hi Anne Can you post the 1881 entry you have for reference please. Thanks ... Paul

Paul, I'm not the greatest typist - would you mind if I just gave you the ref #s ? /4946/106/51. Hately in Lanchester, Esh, Durham Anne

the Julia hadley in 1871 ia married to a Thomas

Louise, I have looked at so many I can't remember. Must admit I hadn't tried Isaac 'though. Could I have ref #s to check who is with him please? Anne

For Ref here is 1881 entry... Isiah Hately abt 1842 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Head Esh Durham Jacob Hately abt 1875 Spennymoor, Durham, England Son Esh Durham Julia Hately abt 1844 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Wife Esh Durham William Hately abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Esh Durham Ellen Hatley abt 1880 Hamsteels, Durham, England Daughter Esh Durham Sarah Hatley abt 1873 Netherton, Staffordshire, England Niece Esh Durham Henry Holmes abt 1853 Grimsby, Lincoln, England Lodger Esh Durham William Mc Kenys abt 1866 Scotland Lodger Esh Durham

Sorry Anne - I can't access the ref no's But if you search the info that I gave you - they should pop up

Yes Paul, I saw the 'Isiah' on 1881 and went back over with that as well with no family name and still got zilch with regard to a mother 'Sarah'. Then tried leaving relationship blank and still nothing. Although what could have a very bad misunderstanding of his name in what seems to be an institution but I can't figure out how to get to the name of the place or where it is. Anne

Brenda, all of them with Joseph and Sarah as parents? If so that's brilliant, thank you very much. It gives me a lot more names and dates to look for. How on earth do you folks find things on IGI and LDS? I seem to have 27 thumbs on both hands when I try to use that site. Thanks again everyone Anne

Is this sibling Sarah in Durham 1871 ? Sarah Hately abt 1854 Portsbello, Staffordshire, England Servant Haswell Durham Margaret J Mason abt 1858 Haswell, Durham, England Daughter Haswell Durham Margery Mason abt 1853 Haswell, Durham, England Daughter Haswell Durham Sarah A Mason abt 1825 Norton, Durham, England Head Haswell Durham Paul

Paul or anyone else who might still be awake, did something really awful happen in Dudley (which seems to be in 3 counties) between 1861 - 1871 to cause most of the people to move north? I saw this Sarah, but according to google earth the town of her birth doesn't exist. There are 2 with an O instead of an S one near Edinborough and one about 100 miles away from Dudley. I know that all of my family on both sides were pitmen who followed the jobs from pit to pit after they arrived in Durham but that 100 miles does seem a bit of a stretch. Anne ( who unfortunately is 5 hours behind you and posts at the daftest of times )