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Searching for John HILL
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Penny Eves | Report | 11 Jun 2006 22:12 |
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Would be very pleased to have any comments on the following ... |
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Penny Eves | Report | 11 Jun 2006 22:13 |
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John HILL married in 1866 in Portsea, Hants. The marriage certificate records his age as 23 and occupation as Cordwainer. His father is William HILL, a carpenter. I have John on subsequent censuses, where he gives his birth year/place as follows: 1871 - c1846 / Westminster, Middx. (not 100% sure about this one) 1881 - c1845 / London, Middx. 1891 - c1842 / Middx. I also believe I’ve found him on the 1861 census – born c1842 in Middx. (Shoemaker) – but unfortunately not with his family, but as a lodger. The IGI has a John HILL, born 31 MAR 1842, parents William and Mary. John and three brothers were all baptised at the Marylebone Workhouse in OCT/NOV 1848. I have found the family (plus one further son, and two further daughters) on the 1851 census, living in Marylebone (not the workhouse). Father William is a Streetsweeper. A friend kindly looked at the workhouse records for me at the LMA. The family were in and out of the workhouse between 1848 and 1853. Father William’s occupation was recorded as “Drover” and he died in the workhouse in 1853. Going back to John’s marriage certificate, his father is not recorded as “Deceased” – would this mean that I don’t have the right family? Unfortunately, there are many John HILLs on the GRO indexes born around 1842 in Middlesex – I would prefer not to have to order a certificate for each one (using father’s name as a reference check) in order to get the right one! Do you think I’ve already found the “right” John, or is there any way around the GRO index problem? Would appreciate any suggestions. Many thanks. Penny |
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Christine in Herts | Report | 11 Jun 2006 22:18 |
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This ''dec'd'' question often crops up... If the registrar/clergyman didn't ask about the alive/dead state of the father, he wouldn't know unless the information had been volunteered. There are plenty of examples of the father's name being recorded without that extra qualification, even tho' it's known that he had died. If all the other info fits, then, even if you can't be 100% certain, it's extremely likely to be the right one. Christine |
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Penny Eves | Report | 12 Jun 2006 10:12 |
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Hi Christine ... Thanks for your reply. I *WANT* to believe that I've found the right person, but still have a few worries regarding his varying occupations (drover>streetsweeper>carpenter!). I think I'll have to try ordering a couple of certificates (which I guess I'll need anyway to find mother's name) ... Penny |
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