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'Clergyman without care of souls'

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Dea

Dea Report 11 Jun 2006 21:30

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Dea

Dea Report 11 Jun 2006 21:31

Hi, I recently saw this person amongst other retired persons listed as 'retired' or 'annuitants' etc., BUT this one obviously used to be a vicar and I liked the terminology - 'Clergyman without care of souls! !! What about you? Dea x

Christine in Herts

Christine in Herts Report 11 Jun 2006 21:37

Not sure that he's ever supposed to say that! - but I imagine he just means he is not an incumbent (i.e. in charge of a parish). Actual retirement for clergy is relatively recent, so I'd say it was an unusual description. Christine

Merry

Merry Report 11 Jun 2006 21:40

I was sure I had one described that way on my tree, but I can't find him!! I typed ''Without care of souls'' into the occupation box on Ancestry 1881 census for England, and there were a surprising 549 matches! Merry

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 11 Jun 2006 22:09

Wasn't the appointment of many vicars often by patronage? - some had more than one appointment. Often they selected a curate to deal with the souls in the parish. Having read through the registers for my own parish, the entries are not signed by the gentlemen named on the list of Rectors, but by their curates, some of whom had a very lengthy stay and lived in the Rectory.(Our patron was the Crown) Jay

Christine in Herts

Christine in Herts Report 11 Jun 2006 22:14

Certainly there are many posts which are technically appointed these days by individuals or corporate bodies (e.g. university colleges) - probably, in the past, ''technically'' would have been replaced by ''actually''. Christine

Barbara

Barbara Report 11 Jun 2006 22:34

I think that just means he was out of work............... Barbara..xx

Anne

Anne Report 11 Jun 2006 22:40

I have one of these on my tree - just a twig. He is described as 'without care of souls' but is also a JP and teacher. I guess he was otherwise occupied, but once ordained always a clergyman I suppose. I took it to mean that although he was ordained he didn't have any parish duties. Anne