Genealogy Chat

Hi all. I have a relative that is listed on the 1841 census but he was born in bth sub,Germany (i have no idea what the bth sub part means,any guesses?) Would anyone know how i would go about tracing when he came over and whereabouts in Germany he lived? Any help would be great! Msny thanks Kelly

It probably says ''Brit Sub'' - i.e. British Subject. His birth should be recorded in the overseas births, I think? Christine

Just realised how early that birth would be. It could be in IGI records - in which case it should be very easy to find because it would (presumably) have a very un-German surname in a German area. If he were the child of a forces or diplomatic person (might have to be to be certain of Brit Sub status), there may be some other kind of record. Christine

His surname is Herman Nullmeyers which i believe is german. (sounds it!) He was born 1805. What are the IGI records and how do i see those? Thanks for the comments so far I WILL FIND HIM!!!! ha ha

If he was German when he was born, but had become a British subject by 1841 I think that means he had been 'naturalised' and there might be records about him at the National Archives in Kew. I'll have a look at their website and get back to you in a minute. Kate.

Yes that really does look rather German! the I(nternational) G(enealogical) I(ndex) is largely searchable online at www.familysearch.org Beware of the difference in reliability between 1] transcriptions of Church Registers (main risk is bad transcription) and 2] submitted material (just how good is the research behind it? - some people appear to have lived for 150 years, while others are parents at only 3!) I was looking for some German info for someone else just now and found what looks to be a very useful site for finding out where to look for German info... http://www.c-wortmann.de/staatsarchive/archiv/index.html In particular it lists all (Federal) State Archives - where they are plus contact info. It also has a links list, too. Unfortunately there's no obvious translated version, but you may be able to guess some of it - and as you go on, you could collect up a list of particularly relevant words (Stammbaum = family tree, for instance; Vater, Mutter, Sohn, Tochter = father, mother, son, daughter; geborn, geheiratet, gestorben = born, married, died) Christine

Sorry, can't see him on the National Archives catalogue. But if you want to search the IGI, go to www.familysearch.org Kate.

Good thinking, Kate. Have you found the search-everything address? http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/quick_search.aspx It didn't find Herman Nullmeyers (which looks like a whole name, to me, not just a surname), but did find these, when I took out the first name: Online Document WO 372/15 Medal Card of Nullmeyers John , Rifle Brigade S/33032 Private Date range: 1914 - 1920. Online Document WO 372/15 Medal Card of Nullmeyers Sidney , Royal Field Artillery 145717 Gunner Date range: 1914 - 1920. Which look as if they'd be on the same medal card (just looked: No! The doc refs are 15806/2589 and 15807 / 2590). If their service records did survive and are at Kew, they might give you something to join up to your relative? Christine

Thanks for the ideas. Will look at what you have sugested. Keep it coming ha ha.All avenues worth exploring! kelly