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Hi everyone, I have George Shed br abt 1840 @ Greenhithe Kent, married Elize Barnard, br abt 1855, in Stratford Essex, marriage 1876 in West Ham, and on the 1881 census, they lived at 26 Lucas Rd West Ham. 1st child Mary Ann Elizabeth Shed, ( my gran bless her} was born 1877. 2nd child Emily Shed was born 1881, died June 1882. 3rd child William T shed born dec 1884, died sept 1886. All at West Ham. There may well be other children that I have not found yet!!!. Then in the 1891 census, they have all disappeared, I did finally locate Mary Ann in a Industrial School for girls, in Poole Dorset, Question, have mother and father died as well?, were there other children that I have not found?, the fact that Mary Ann was in a Industrial school, does this mean that something had happened to her parents.?, or was that the norm in those days, for a girl here age?. Can someone please give me a hands here, to sort this lot out?. Ben.

1881 for reference Eliza Shed abt 1855 Stratford, Essex, England Wife West Ham Essex Emily Shed West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex George Shed abt 1840 Greenhithe, Kent, England Head West Ham Essex Mary A. Shed abt 1878 Lambeth, Middlesex, England Daughter West Ham

1891 Mary is in Poole as you say. Says Training school for Service on Description sheet

Hi Sue, Thanks for displaying what i am looking for in a much better format, I think Gran went to train to be a servant for the gentry, other than that, I have no idea. Ben

Ben I cant find anything obvious further. Looks as though you will need to trawl death and or marriages for Marys parents Its free to search on ancestry so just time consuming Good Luck Sue

Thanks Sue, I don't have Ancestry, so I'll check with Freebmd first, its prooving to be a brick wall. Ben.

Ben BMD are free to all to search Sue

1891 Name: Eliza Shell Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Where Born: Stratford Civil parish: Spitalfields Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG12/274 Registration district: Whitechapel Sub registration district: Spitalfields ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 133 Page: 18 GSU Number: 6095384 This image looks like Shed Eliza is listed as widow Occupation of charwoman Maureen

Kids went to Industrial schools for a variety of reasons, at risk of a criminal life or family in dire poverty - it was training for a better future. I take it your gran married before the 1901?

Name: Eliza Shed Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 479 Arthur Eldred Blythe, Richard Hill, Annie Caroline Ruskin Could Eliza have got married again Name: Mary Ann Shed Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Islington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 377 Frederick Overall 1901 Name: Frederick Overall Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Head Where born: Holdhurst, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG13/161 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Folio: 93 Page: 9 Household schedule number: 56 Mary A Overall abt 1878 Lambeth, London, England Wife Florence E Overall abt 1900 Islington, London, England Daughter Emily Barnard abt 1856 Worcestershire, England Aunt Maureen

Thanks everyone, Heather, Mary married Frederick William Overall March 1900, they had 3 children, and then Frederick died from a drowning in the Old Bedford river at Mepal Cambs, I still have to look for possibly more children in the 1800s, interesting aboput the mispelling of Shed/Shell, must look into that further. Excuse my delay in answering, got called away for the evening meal, I live in Au.

Glitter, What a find, will have to chase that along, goodness me, thank you all very much. Ben