Genealogy Chat

he was my grandfather and lived in hounslow middlesex and preston lancs throughout life he was born about 1895-97 i am stuck as i have him on his sons marraige cert but son wasnt born til 1915 and william is down on marraige cert as deseased

is he more likely to be in lancs or middlesex in 1901

i will says llancs but his son was born in hounslow middlesex and grew up in lancs and william is supposed to be buried in preston churchyard

Birth: any good? Name: William Thomas H Shaw Year of Registration: 1894 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Guildford County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 77

George H b1867 Margaret W b1868 Sarah D b1891 Ellen D b1893 William b 1897 Address looks like 49 Rostron Road, Ashton in Makerfiled Lancs

Have you got his marriage cert? that will give you his fathers details and confirm his age. If his son was born 1915 and he was born 1897 he was a very young dad? Suzanne

Another one for 1901 William Shaw abt 1869 Belgium Head Newington London Frances Shaw abt 1873 Aldershot, Hampshire, England Wife Ada G Shaw abt 1893 Shincliffe, Kent, England Daughter Eva Shaw abt 1899 Walworth, London, England Daughter Frances Shaw abt 1897 Walworth, London, England Daughter Sidney Shaw abt 1900 Walworth, London, England Daughter >> William Shaw abt 1894 Guildford, Surrey, England Son

Im not sure what areas in Surrey the Guildford district covers: 1901: View Record Ernest Shaw abt 1900 Walworth, Surrey, England Son Newington London View Record George Shaw abt 1897 Walworth, Surrey, England Son Newington London View Record Rose Shaw abt 1881 Walworth, Surrey, England Wife Newington London View Record William Shaw abt 1895 Walworth, Surrey, England Son Newington London Advice: get marriage cert. Suzanne

i have great hope these are him as i lived in surrey and hants all my life and i know williams son edward moved back here in 1959 although they had grew up in preston lancs can i be cheeky and ask for help to find williams marraige to verify this is him he would have been married in 1913-15 probably hounslow middlesex as his 1st son was born that area in 1915

Have you got his sons birth cert to get his mothers name? Otherwise its like looking for a needle in a haystack and you are presuming quite a lot. Of course it is your tree.. lol. Suzanne

If not then have you at least found his sons birth entry in the indexes? That would give you his mothres maiden name. Suzanne

i know what you mean but i dont have a definate match on the birth entry i have found three edward henry shaws born inlondon area and the one i think may be him has mothers maiden name down as shaw also i have edwards date of death and marraige cert is there anyway i can check for a birthmatch with this info

Hi Hayz: Births of Edward Shaws in London/Middlesex between 1913-1917: No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year View Image 1 Shaw Edward H Burden Camberwell.1d 1667 Birth 3 1914 2 Shaw Edward G Blunt Daventry.3b 169 Birth 3 1915 3 Shaw Edward B Hook Hastings.2b 55 Birth 2 1916 4 Shaw Edward J Clark Kensington.1a 222 Birth 2 1916 5 Shaw Edward G Chandler Kensington.1a 248 Birth 3 1913 6 Shaw Edward C Bullen Lewisham.1d 1858 Birth 1 1917 7 Shaw Edward M Goslett Lewisham.1d 2192 Birth 3 1914 >>>8 Shaw Edward H Shaw Marylebone.1a 948 Birth 1 1915 9 Shaw Edward A Moden Newmarket.3b 598 Birth 4 1917 10 Shaw Edward E Shaw Portsmouth.2b 689 Birth 3 1915 11 Shaw Edward Noone St George Hanover Square.1a 760 Birth 1 1915 12 Shaw Edward Spinks Stepney.1c 631 Birth 1 1914 13 Shaw Edward J Scanlon Tunbridge.2a 1148 Birth 4 1917 14 Shaw Edward Williams Wandsworth.1d 980 Birth 3 1917 15 Shaw Edward A Good Wandsworth.1d 1353 Birth 1 1913 16 Shaw Edward J Taylor Woolwich.1d 2156 Birth 4 1913 I take it the one you found was the Marylebone one above? Marylebone is nowhere near Hounslow? With the mother being down as Shaw its likely that this is an illigitimate birth (although it could be a Shaw marrying a Shw or the parents got married after the birth?) Can I assume that you have been told by family that the birth was in Hounslow? If this is the case then they may be wrong? Perhaps he was ayoung child in Hounslow but born elsewhere? I was born South of the river Thames and was only six months when my family moved? Also I take it that the Name 'William Thomas Henry Shaw' is from the marriage cert of Edward? If this is the case and the William born Surrey is his father then its just possible the one in Camberwell at the top is your man as its closer to the area his possible father was living? I think in this case you may have to get the death cert of William as you know for sure he died and was buried in Preston????? Or do you? His death cert might produce the wifes name? Suzanne Update: Ill see if I can find a marriage for Burden/Shaw and find out if the first name of Shaw is William and let you know.

Looks like we're getting somewhere: Birth of Edward H Shaw: Shaw Edward H (Mothers name - Burden) Camberwell.1d 1667 Birth 3 1914 Parents marriage of above: No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Spouse District Page No Event Quarter Year Shaw William T H (Burden) Southwark.1d 199 Marriage 4 1913 Burden Edith (Shaw) Southwark 1d 199 Marriage 4 1913 We have your William Thomas Henry Shaw!!!! I think in this case that the birth I found earlier for William will be his, if you get the marriage cert it will give both Ediths and Williams fathers name and occupation so you can hopefully find both of them on the 1901 census. Suzanne

wow thanks suezanne,i have edward marraige cert and that is where i got williims name edward was 51yrs old when he died on 09/01/ 66 i went to crem where he is buried and got dod etc ao i agree camberwell was closer as his birth but only just looked properly and as he was 51 at death on 9th jan oviously he was 51 in 1965 and would have been 52 in 1966 so his birth would have been born 1914 i was just taking 51 yrs off 1966 when he died and came up with 1915 but my dad is edwards son and he was sure his father was born in hounslow mid or london area i have edwards marraige to his first wife and thats in eton so your prob right with the camberwell one lets hope we can find a marraige i will look too but your much faster then men thanks so much for your help

suzanne you are a supermega fast STAR iv have been trying to solve this for almost two months and only realized where i was going wrong now thankyou im am truly greatful for all your tips and help and i am aware you have came to my rescue more than once im sooooon pleased i will maybe get some where with my ancestors now,what site do you use to get these results if you dont mind my asking hayz

Hi Hayz, Im pleased I was of help. Ages can vary over the years anyway so always look a few years either way. For Births and marriages from about 1911-1920 I find the best site is familyrelatives althought I know others who dont get on with it at all but Its good for getting quick results and matching up couples for marriage and giving mothres maiden name for birth after Sept 1/4 1911 to 1920. Best of luck with all you do..... Suzanne XX