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Curious Occupation
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Linda GF | Report | 13 May 2006 15:54 |
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Hi All I am viewing neighbours of one of my relatives in the 1891 census looking at occupations,size of family, size of dwelling etc to try and get a feel for the life there at that time (my great grandfather committed suicide and the inquest report says that it was unexpected, he was in work, no family problems etc) and there are several entries that gives 'outdoor pauper' in the nearby area. They all seem to be widows in their 70s. Is this what is now known as a professional beggar? Someone who wouldn't go the the workhouse? Any ideas would be welcome. Cheers Linda |
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Paul Barton, Special Agent | Report | 13 May 2006 15:59 |
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I would imagine it means homeless. |
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Unknown | Report | 13 May 2006 16:01 |
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It might mean someone who was receiving parish 'out- relief' ie being given money to live, as opposed to living inside the workhouse. Are they listed at addresses, or does it say 'doorway' etc which would imply that they were homeless? nell |
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Linda GF | Report | 13 May 2006 16:07 |
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Paul, Nell There is an address, one of the neighbours, Juliet Smith, St Alkmunds derby is living with family, so i don't think it is homeless. Other neighbours say living on own means so could be a term for some sort of poor relief. I haven't really got a clue on the history of 'state' benefits before the current system. I suppose i am looking for answers I'll never get - the death certificate for my great great grandfather was not too cheerful either! Thanks Linda |
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Linda GF | Report | 13 May 2006 16:09 |
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Gill Thanks (our replies must have overlapped!). Will check site out, though I must try and get myself a bit detached first! Linda |
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Paul Barton, Special Agent | Report | 13 May 2006 16:10 |
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I think Gill's got it. There's a lot of misunderstanding about the workhouses and poor relief. Her idea makes sense. |
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Linda GF | Report | 13 May 2006 16:35 |
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Paul, Nell, Gill Thanks all. I have just looked quickly at the workhouse site and it is really interesting. I searched on Derby Workhouse and immediately recognised it! (though it has 'urban folklore' attached) I suppose you have to take the rough with the smooth when doing this 'family research' thing and it never fails to amaze me what I learn each day from this Tips board. Slightly more cheerful now, Cup Final nearly finished so time for a glass of 'white' Cheers linda |
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Unknown | Report | 13 May 2006 16:36 |
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'living off own means' means a private income, not welfare. nell |
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Porkie_Pie | Report | 13 May 2006 16:46 |
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this link will tell anyone interested about outdoor relief and the pauper laws for workhouses http://www.russellsage.org/publications/workingpapers/Incentives%20Information%20and%20Welfare/document It is as Helen says in her post Roy |
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Linda GF | Report | 15 May 2006 15:05 |
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Roy Thanks, another interesting site. Thanks to all again for info. Linda |
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