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3 Million Men Traced to Medieval Irish King-intere

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DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 24 Apr 2012 12:35

That is pretty much the same as the situation in England. Many people can trace their ancestry/dna back to I think Edward l or ll.

James

James Report 24 Apr 2012 07:41

my grandmother married george gallagher who's father was micheal gallagher from county mayo , i presume he is a descendant of the irish king niall.
does anybody know if this is so.
cheers jim

moe

moe Report 19 Jan 2006 13:30

blast !!!!!! i can't impress my family/friends with that one then... none of the surnames are my irish rellies..i must be decended from his best mate Jimmy one hostage...LOL.....moe

gails37

gails37 Report 19 Jan 2006 13:23

This is an interesting article that was on the Discovery channel Up to three million men around the world could be descended from a prolific medieval Irish king, according to researchers at Trinity College Dublin. A genetics study suggests that the fifth-century warlord, known as 'Niall of the Nine Hostages,' may be the ancestor of about one in 12 Irishmen. He established a dynasty of powerful chieftains that dominated the island for six centuries. In a study of the Y chromosomes, which are only passed down through the male line, scientists found there is a genetic fingerprint hot-spot in northwest Ireland where 21.5 percent carry it, TCD research fellow Brian McEvoy told AFP. This was the main power-base of the of the Ui Neills, which literally translated means 'descendants of Niall.' McEvoy said the Y chromosome appeared to trace back to one person. 'There are certain surnames that seem to have come from Ui Neill. We studied if there was any association between those surnames and the genetic profile. It is his (Niall's) family.' The study said that Niall 'resided at the cusp of mythology and history but our results do seem to confirm the existence of a single early medieval progenitor to the most powerful and enduring Irish dynasty.' The results also lend support to surviving genealogical and oral traditions of Gaelic Ireland and are a 'powerful illustration of the potential link between prolificacy and power.' The study said the chromosome had also been found in 16.7 percent of men in western and central Scotland and has turned up in multiple North American population samples, including in two percent of European-American New Yorkers. 'Given historically high rates of Irish emigration to North America and other parts of the world, it seems likely that the number of descendants worldwide runs to perhaps two to three million males,' the study said. It compared the result to similar research that suggested that Mongol emperor Genghis Khan has 16 million descendants after conquering most of Asia in the 13th century. Though medieval Ireland was Christian, people married earlier, divorce was allowed and concubinage was practiced. Illegitimate sons were claimed and their rights protected by law. 'As in other polygamous societies, the siring of offspring was related to power and prestige,' the study said. The study points out that one of the O'Neill dynasty chieftains who died in 1423 had 18 sons with 10 different women and counted 59 grandsons in the male line. Niall of the Nine Hostages, who became high king of Ireland, got his name from using the taking of hostages as a strategy for subjecting his opponent chieftains. He is known in folklore as a raider of the British and French coasts. Supposedly slain in the English Channel or in Scotland, his descendants were the most powerful rulers of Ireland until the 11th century. Modern surnames tracing their ancestry to Niall include (O')Gallagher, (O')Boyle, (O')Doherty, O'Donnell, Connor, Cannon, Bradley, O'Reilly, Flynn, (Mc)Kee, Campbell, Devlin, Donnelly, Egan, Gormley, Hynes, McCaul, McGovern, McLoughlin, McManus, McMenamin, Molloy, O'Kane, O'Rourke and Quinn.