Genealogy Chat

Ah well, no bridge for you! If you inherit any hotels, let me know. ;)

Hiya potential cuz. Ive traced my line of Marriott's, they came from Derbyshire originally but were in Nottinghamshire in the late 1800s thru to the present day.

Dang. That's what you get for looking at those stupid surname boards and dredging up dead stuff. ;) No cousins for me.

Well, if anybody's ever looking for *that* Reuben's complete genealogy, there it is!

But have you traced your Marriotts back??

I have a completely different reason for asking that one. ;)

I'm actually a Marriott too, so ... we could still be cousins! Ha. Like ugly on an ape, I am. Can't get rid of me. Actually, I'm just after getting a hotel or two ...

This one's mine:

FRANCES MARRIOTT
Spouse: BERRY RUSHLAND
Marriage: 17 JUN 1780 Long Clawson, Leicester, England
Batch No.: M06035

They were the parents of the next in the line of Berry Rushlands, who married someone who called herself Frances (causing some moron to submit to the IGI that he married his mother Frances Marriott) but was probably really named Tryphoena Yalding.

They were the parents of a bunch of girls and two boys. The boys didn't reproduce -- and believe it or not, that appears to have been the end of the Rushland name in England. There is a property still referred to as Rushland Farm in planning applications, quite close to Marriott Bridge, I believe.

Daughter Elizabeth Rushland married Samuel Littler, then she died and he, er, shacked up with her widowed sister Sarai. Their son William Littler had son John Littler who married Alice Cooper, daughter of Reuben Cooper.

So ... if we're not cousins on the Cooper side, there are always the Marriotts themselves!

Although, I've come to realize that Marriott is not at all an uncommon name in England, so I won't hold my breath. ;)

The Reuben who was related to Cornelius died at war, without having children, so I now know he's not mine. My Reuben's father was Thomas Renshaw Marriott. BUT I have certs for Cornelius' family that I bought in error, so would be happy to give them away. Sorry to disappoint you Kathryn lol!

WAAA who nudged this??!!

RS -- are you still there? ;)


I'm looking at the TTF Coopers, and your Reuben Marriott caught my eye, but because of this one in 1841:

Name: Ruben Marriott
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Calverton
Hundred: Thurgarton (North Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold

Elizabeth Cooper 2
Maria Cooper 30
Cornelius Marriott 50
Hannah Marriott 15
Mary Marriott 55
Ruben Marriott 15
William Marriott 20
George Swinfield 30


I've given that Reuben the once-over myself, because I'm trying to find my Reuben Cooper born c1826 in Calverton and can't, and this one popped up in searches. See the thread I've just made:

ReubenCooper c1825 MaryAnnFallowell; CalvertonNotts
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=980840

Note the Coopers in that 1841 Marriott household. And my Reuben Cooper's mother was apparently Sarah Smith. Why, thee and me are almost sisters already!

Here's that Reuben in 1851:


Name: Ruben Marriott
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Calverton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Household schedule number: 71

Mary Mariott 67
Cardione Marriott 27
Chornetius Marriott 1
Hannah Marriott 24
Ruben Marriott 27
William Marriott 34

Cornelius aged 1 is the son of William and Caroline (I assume that's what the names are, w/o checking).

So he's the Cornelius in the 1881 census posted up above, married to Maria Cooper in 1874.

This looks like that Maria Cooper in 1851:


Name: Maria Cooper
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Female
Where born: Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Calverton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Household schedule number: 109

Ann Coope 26
William Coope 23
Alfred Cooper 3
Maria Cooper 1
Esther Smith 66
June Smith 4


She is of course the daughter of William Cooper and Ann Cooper, duh.

So much Cooper, Smith and Marriott intermingling. There are more Marriotts on that census page as well. The heads of household are all Framework Knitters, like my Reuben Cooper's father Robert on Reuben's marriage cert. Like everybody else in the vicinity, I imagine.


Per the submitted batch 7207530 in the IGI, this would be that William Cooper:


WILLIAM COOPER
Christening: 09 DEC 1827 Calverton, Nottingham, England
Father: WILLIAM COOPER
Mother: SUSANNA


and this is likely the household in Calverton in 1841:

Elizabeth Cooper 8
James Cooper 20
John Cooper 26
Joseph Cooper 18
Maria Cooper 15
William Cooper 50
William Cooper 13


My Robert Cooper who married Sarah Smith, my mother's mother's mother's father's parents, would have been born in the late 1790s or early 1800s in Calverton.

Do you suppose he was brother or cousin to William Cooper, father of William, father of Cornelius, father of Reuben your grandfather?

I think I got that right ... ;)

Thankyou everyone; VERY much appreciated.

from 1871 census Maria Cooper Pre marriage Alfred Cooper abt 1848 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Calverton Nottinghamshire Ann Cooper abt 1823 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Calverton Nottinghamshire Esther Cooper abt 1857 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Calverton Nottinghamshire James Cooper abt 1821 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Brother Calverton Nottinghamshire Kate Cooper abt 1871 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Calverton Nottinghamshire Maria Cooper abt 1851 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Calverton Nottinghamshire William Cooper abt 1828 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Calverton Nottinghamshire William Cooper abt 1854 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Calverton Nottinghamshire

Do you have the marriage certificate for Eliza and Reuben, as this will give Eliza's father's name and occupation. Here is the reference if you haven't got it:- March qtr. 1922, Basford, 7b, 256 Kath. x

Cornelius's marriage to Maria >COOPER, Maria 1874 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire >Marriott, Cornelius 1874 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Patching, Mary Elizabeth 1874 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Poole, John Shepherd 1874 June Marriages Basford Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Quarter: June Year: 1874 District: Basford County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 180

Earlier still 1881 Caroline Marriott abt 1875 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Cornelius Marriott abt 1850 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Ellen Marriott abt 1878 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Maria Marriott abt 1851 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Mary A. Marriott abt 1876 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England William Marriott abt 1880 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Son Gedling, Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England

There is a 2 year old Eliza Smith on the 1901 census in Basford, who could be your Eliza, although with a name like Smith would need checking. I've saved the image. Kath. x

The same family that i found in 1901 , this time in 1891, with earlier children that had left home by 1901 Marriott, Comelins abt 1888 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Son Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Cornelius abt 1850 Calverton, Nottinghamshire Head Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Eliza abt 1886 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Frank abt 1884 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Son Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Maria abt 1852 Calverton, Nottinghamshire Wife Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Mary Jane abt 1878 Calverton, Nottinghamshire Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Rebecca abt 1882 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, Susan abt 1890 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Marriott, William abt 1880 Gedling, Nottinghamshire Son Gedling Nottinghamshire

I would guess this is the same Rubens birth record. Apply for this , which will give both his parents names and his mothers maiden name Name: Marriott, Reuben Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: Basford County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 293 (click to see others on page) Jess x NOTE: ANY REPLIES FOLLOWING THIS ONE ONLY APPLY IF YOU FIND HIS MOTHERS NAME WAS MARIA Nee COOPER

Do you know Reuben's age when he married? There is a Reuben Marriott on the 1901 census in Basford, aged 3 with grandparents. If you think he might be yours I've saved the image. Kath. x p.s. Same family as Jess has found.

Concievably your Reuben as a small boy:- 1901 census Cornelious Marriott abt 1850 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Gedling Nottinghamshire Cornelious Marriott abt 1888 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Son Gedling Nottinghamshire Frank Marriott abt 1884 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Son Gedling Nottinghamshire Mary Marriott abt 1892 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Mary A Marriott abt 1876 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire Mary M Marriott abt 1852 Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Gedling Nottinghamshire -->Reuben Marriott abt 1898 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Gedling Nottinghamshire Susan Marriott abt 1890 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Gedling Nottinghamshire William Marriott abt 1894 Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Gedling Nottinghamshire jess x

Searching for info/ancestors of Reuben Marriott who married Eliza (Liza) Smith in Basford, 1922. They lived in Nottingham, and had a son ,Clifford. Possibly other kids too. Clifford was born 1923; he was my grandad. I never knew him.