Genealogy Chat

Thomas Purcells occupation is Land Steward on the marriage cert, I know no more about Joan Purcell or where she came from, although I have noticed while searching the name, quite a few are from Ireland, so I wonder if she may have been there during the 1901 census, but do not know how to follow this up?

This presumably is Clara in 1901: Clara Simpkin 33 Yorks Knaresbrough York Knaresborough General Sert Domestic

It's not unusual to find people concealing an illegitimacy by giving a father's name on a marriage certificate. They often quote the biological father's christian name if they know it, but give him the same surname as their own. Charles (surname unknown) may be the real father or the step-father. If no father's name appears on Percy's birth certificate, this suggests that John has died or he and Clara have parted.

Thankyou for that, this is where I start to wonder whats what , on the Birth cert I got for Percy Simpkin, his mother is Clara Simpkin, no father is mentioned but a Clara Benson Married a John Simpkin in 1892 in Morley Yorkshire, if this is her, then why is Percivals father named as Charles on his marriage cert? thankyou for any help

Tammany, Is Joan Purcell called Joan on every subsequent document that mentions her? Joan was fairly unusual as a Christian name at that period and there are not that many about. There are certainly no births of any Joan Purcells in a period where freebmd is supposedly complete. There are a couple of Joannas, but they are several years younger. Did Joan have any brothers or sisters? Does Thomas have a distinctive occupation? Nobody is showing up with Joan as a second name either. Do you have any clues as to whether Joan came from the Harrogate area or if she just happened to be living there when she married?

This could be his birth; Percy Simpkin 1896 Leeds june 9b 569 No father on birth cert. can mean mother not married. What was her maiden name on cert?

presume this is the one you mean 1901 Emma Blades 42 Wetherby, Yorkshire, England Wife Knaresborough Yorkshire George Blades 12 Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England Son Knaresborough Yorkshire Harrison Blades 43 Wetherby, Yorkshire, England Head Knaresborough Yorkshire Richard Blades 15 Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England Son Knaresborough Yorkshire Percy Simpkin 4 Meanwood, Yorkshire, England Nurs Child Knaresborough Yorkshire Wonder if it is worth taking the BLADE family back 10 years? blades 1891 - not telling us anything i dont think: Blades, Emma 34 Wetherby, Yorkshire Wife Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, George 2 Knaresborough, Yorkshire Son Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, Harrison 36 Tadcaster, Yorkshire Head Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, John 16 Wetherby, Yorkshire Son Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, Richard 5 Knaresborough, Yorkshire Son Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, Robert 15 Wetherby, Yorkshire Son Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Blades, William 12 Bradford, Yorkshire Son Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Crefsea, Lidia 30 Gomersall, Yorkshire Visitor Scriven with Tentergate Yorkshire Wonder if this is the right Charles Simpkin in 1891 Simpkin, Hannah 41 Hutton Cranswick, Yorkshire Wife Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, Herbert 1/12 Ottringham, Yorkshire Son Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, James 42 Hunmanby, Yorkshire Head Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, John Alfred 13 Hull, Yorkshire Son Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, Saud 5 Ottringham, Yorkshire Son Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, Ada 3 Ottringham, Yorkshire Daughter Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, Charles 19 Bridlington, Yorkshire Son Ottringham Yorkshire Simpkin, Elizabeth 11 Hull, Yorkshire Daughter Ottringham Yorkshire jess

I would have thought on the balence of things that percival and percy were probably one and the same person. jess

I have a marriage cert from the 31st March 1921 between JOAN PURCELL aged 23 years, whose father was THOMAS PURCELL, and PERCIVAL SIMPKIN aged 26years whose father was CHARLES SIMPKIN, the marriage took place at St Roberts R c church in Harrogate, Knaresborough. However I havent been able to find any of these people on the 1901 census, and wondered if Im unlucky or am missing something? I have found a PERCY SIMPKIN 0n the 1901 census, in Knaresborough, but he was 4 years then, he was living with a family as a 'nursechild' and on his birth certificate there is no fathers name, so this is as close as I have got to finding out if these people are my grandparents. Any tips to where I might be going wrong of advise would be greatly appreciated