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They could not read or write
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Yvonne | Report | 17 Mar 2005 13:16 |
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Hi I have ancestors who could not read or write and was wondering how they would have completed the census form, or would someone of done this for them. I cant seem to find them anywhere. There names were James Phipp(s) born around 1819 and his wife was Elizabeth Rothwell also born around that time, both from Liverpool (I think). Im in my lunch hour at work at the moment, so will answer any replies later. Much appreicated. Yvonne x |
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Geoff | Report | 17 Mar 2005 13:38 |
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In 1841, the enumerators were authorised to ask questions (with penalties for refusal to give answers). I'm not sure that there were any forms in the early censuses in view of the high illiteracy rates. |
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Yvonne | Report | 17 Mar 2005 13:43 |
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Hi Geoff Thanks for your reply, never thought there wouldnt be any census forms then, you just take these things for granted now. LOL Yvonne x |
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Sam | Report | 17 Mar 2005 13:43 |
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As far as I know, the 1911 census was the first one that had to be completed by the householder. Earlier ones were done by the enumerator. Sam |
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Unknown | Report | 17 Mar 2005 14:11 |
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Not going to help you find your missing ones but just found this which I thought was very interesting and not something I'd thought about before From Anthony Adolph's Census Research Tips The poor had a great fear of being ‘moved on’ or being told to return whence they came. In censuses, many claimed to have been born where they were enumerated, even if this was not so. For a Genes Reunited member I recently proved that two Irish people in Middlesborough who said they were born there were actually from Cork! In censuses, households were sometimes enumerated though the back door. If the people you want are not found in the street you expected, use a contemporary map to discover what the surrounding streets were and look there as well. |
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Zoe | Report | 17 Mar 2005 15:48 |
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found this family on the ancestry 1851. Only think it may be worth looking into because of teh other surname in the household: James Phipp Toxteth Park, Lancashire London, England Male 39 Margaret Phipp Toxteth Park, Lancashire Lancashire, England, Liverpool Female 11 William Phipp Toxteth Park, Lancashire Lancashire, England, Liverpool Male 17 Jane Rothwell Toxteth Park, Lancashire Lancashire, England, Liverpool Female 31 Jane Rothwell Toxteth Park, Lancashire Lancashire, England, Liverpool Female 0.66 the 1851 doesnt give relationships but I'd guess that the mother of William and Margaret may have died. Unfortunately theres no option to view the actual images from teh 1851 |
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Zoe | Report | 17 Mar 2005 16:01 |
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from family search IGI: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WILLIAM LEWIN PHIPPS Christening: 20 APR 1834 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, Parents: Father: JAMES PHIPPS Mother: ELIZABETH Marriages: JAMES PHIPPS Spouse: ELIZABETH ROTHWELL 25 DEC 1832 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England |
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Zoe | Report | 17 Mar 2005 16:26 |
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do stop me if you've already got all this. Name: Phipp, William Lewin Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 37 Quarter: March Year: 1871 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 472 |
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