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You are right again Tracy 1861 Census All the family except Charles but with the additin of Strange, M Daughter Unmarried F Age 15 Dressmaker Born Maryleone, Middlesex Also found birth Mary Ann Strange B1846 Marylebone And marriages as follows:- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1869 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strange Martha Ellen E. London 1c 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1869 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strange Mary Ann Islington 1b 370 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1870 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strange Mary Ann Bethnal Green 1c 708 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1870 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRANGE Mary Ann Holborn 1b 967 I was hoping she would have married a Radley and turned out to be one of the witnesses on the Marriage Cert

They may have. 1871 to 1841 is a long time. They could have set up home by themselves :)

Got it Once again Thank You xxxx Got to say tho' I am suprised they didn't have children before!!! LOL

Marriages Dec 1840 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- **COOK Ann Marylebone 1 226 HOLMES George Marylebone 1 226 **JOHNSON Ann Marylebone 1 226 Pine James Marylebone 1 226 Redmayne Frances Marylebone 1 226 **STRANGE Charles George Marylebone 1 226 Taylor Elizabeth Marylebone 1 226 UFFORD John George Marylebone 1 226

hi Tracy Thanks for looking it just gets worse. Can you please tell me if this was the Charles you saw marrying Ann as it seems to be the only one I can find. Thanks in advance Yvonne

I had a look round, but I couldn't see one with a George as a father. It's possible he had already died, but that makes it even worse lol

Ihave just been studying the two census dates you listed and i think you are right Tracy. I hadn't seen the 1881 with george and arthur. Not only the Charles and George but the charles and arthur also. Very frustrating tho' isn't it? Thanks for all your help If you can stand another lookup I would appreciate your opinion on the Flower family too.

The only marriage for a Charles George is the one to Ann, which is the one I gave in the censuses. I'd say that is your man.

Thanks Tracy I have him on my list - he is down as ominibus driver I also have from same census Match Quality Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island Charles Strange 39 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Bermondsey London Charles Strange 3 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Son Bermondsey London Edward Strange 8 St Giles, Middlesex, England Son Bermondsey London Fred Strange 7 months Bermondsey, Surrey, England Son Bermondsey London Margaret Strange 27 Covent Garde, Middlesex, England Wife Bermondsey London Mary Strange 9 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter Bermondsey London Thomas Strange 12 Shawell, Middlesex, England Son Bermondsey London His occupation was a Marchorseman Problem is how do I know which one is the one I want?

1881... George Strange abt 1821 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Paddington (Omnibus Driver) Ann Strange abt 1823 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Wife Paddington Wm. Strange abt 1860 Bayswater, Middlesex, England Son Paddington Arthur Strange abt 1863 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Paddington 24 Fernhead Rd

1871... Charles G Strange 49 Paddington Head St Marylebone London (.....? Driver) Ann Strange 48 Panckrish, London, England Wife St Marylebone London William Strange 11 Bagewater Son St Marylebone London Charles Strange 9 Marylebone Son St Marylebone London Salisbury St

Think I am Blurry eyed - any help appreciated I have the marriage certificate as follows:- Oct 19th 1885 Marriage at the Parish Church in the Parish of Emmanuel Maida Hill in the county of Middlesex Charles Arthur Strange - Age 19 - Batchelor - Railway Carman - 120 Carlisle St - Father: Charles George Strange - Occ: Cab Proprietor (This would make his est birth year 1866) Married Mary Ann Flower - Age 18 - Spinster - 120 Carlilse St - Father: George Frederick Flower - Ominibus Conductor Deceased (This would make her est birth year 1867) Witnesses: Elizabeth Rothwell Mary Ann Radley I also have them on the 1891 Census inc children says Charles sates age: 27 Born Marylebone (Makes est birth year 1864) Mary Ann states age: 23 Born Marylebone (Makes est birth year 1868) Charles sadly died in 1895 states age 30 (This would make est birth year 1865) Mary Ann remarried in 1897 and I have her and rest of famjily on the 1901 census States her age as: 33 Est Birth Year: 1868 Born Marylebone I think Mary Ann died in 1909 states age 45 (This would make est birth year 1864) My problem is I can't find them on earlier census 1881 or 1871 with fathers. There are lots of Charles Strange and lots of Mary & Mary A Flowers and fathers with matching names. I want to order Birth Certs for Charles and Mary Ann but don't know which ones to order - am I missing something? Am I stupid? Could be just blurry eyed! If anyone can spare a mo any advice appreciated Thanks Yvonne nudge

Also have found these on 1861 census: STRANGE, Charles 5 M Marylebone STRANGE, Charles 20 M Islington STRANGE, Charles 6 M Kensington STRANGE, Charles 19 M London City STRANGE, Charles 5 M Gravesend FLOWER, George 11 M Islington FLOWER, George 7 M Bethnal Green FLOWER, George 19 M Newington FLOWER, George 13 M Camberwell FLOWER, George 14 M Lewisham FLOWER, George 18 M Epping FLOWER, George 12 M Orsett FLOWER, George 19 M Chelmsford FLOWER, George E 16 M Stepney

I have the marriage certificate as follows:- Oct 19th 1885 Marriage at the Parish Church in the Parish of Emmanuel Maida Hill in the county of Middlesex Charles Arthur Strange - Age 19 - Batchelor - Railway Carman - 120 Carlisle St - Father: Charles George Strange - Occ: Cab Proprietor (This would make his est birth year 1866) Married Mary Ann Flower - Age 18 - Spinster - 120 Carlilse St - Father: George Frederick Flower - Ominibus Conductor Deceased (This would make her est birth year 1867) Witnesses: Elizabeth Rothwell Mary Ann Radley I also have them on the 1891 Census inc children says Charles sates age: 27 Born Marylebone (Makes est birth year 1864) Mary Ann states age: 23 Born Marylebone (Makes est birth year 1868) Charles sadly died in 1895 states age 30 (This would make est birth year 1865) Mary Ann remarried in 1897 and I have her and rest of famjily on the 1901 census States her age as: 33 Est Birth Year: 1868 Born Marylebone I think Mary Ann died in 1909 states age 45 (This would make est birth year 1864) My problem is I can't find them on earlier census 1881 or 1871 with fathers. There are lots of Charles Strange and lots of Mary & Mary A Flowers and fathers with matching names. I want to order Birth Certs for Charles and Mary Ann but don't know which ones to order - am I missing something? Am I stupid? Could be just blurry eyed! If anyone can spare a mo any advice appreciated Thanks Yvonne