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No Fathers on Marriage Certificate

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Irene

Irene Report 12 Mar 2005 22:23

Joanna what are the surnames, maybe one of us can help you Irene

The Bag

The Bag Report 12 Mar 2005 18:01

Its Charlwood! Mine came from there about the same time and theirs were odd if i remember! jess

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Mar 2005 17:58

Can you find Alfred and Mary in the 1841 and 1851 census? Maybe that will give clues re. a possible father.

moggyrud

moggyrud Report 12 Mar 2005 12:17

haven't had that, but had one who put deceased for the father and l knew he was still living at that time!! Maureen

Joanne

Joanne Report 12 Mar 2005 12:17

Made up fathers are an even bigger brick wall than no father! I've spent weeks trying to find a named father on a marriage certificate eventually to give up and order the birth and then find out that there is no father!

Joanna

Joanna Report 12 Mar 2005 11:14

Thanks Lou - I think that is the only way forward. I've not done that before so it will be interesting. There is no relevant info for either of them on the IGI or anywhere on the net.

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Mar 2005 11:06

It sounds like they were both illegitimate. If the father was deceased it would be usual to still name them. Some illegitimate people chose to make up a father to save embarassment, others didn't. Do you have their birth certificates to see if a father is named on those? Ok....just realised you've said pre civil reg!!! Next step then would be to try and locate baptism records to see whether the father has been named on those

Joanna

Joanna Report 12 Mar 2005 11:01

Received a much-awaited MC today only to hit the proverbial brick wall. Alfred c1836 and Mary c1832 married in Charlwood (Reigate district) on 26th December 1853. Both were single and worked as Servants. It was a church wedding in their home parish (both born there according to census) yet under 'Father's Name and Surname' there are just lines struck through on both, and under 'Rank or Profession of Father' it says 'NO NAME' twice. Has anyone else come across this and found the reason? Surely if their fathers were dead they would have named them anyway. The witnesses hold no clues as they have different surnames. They clearly didn't elope and marry secretly without parental consent or anything like that. Could they both have been illegitimate? But wouldn't they be more likely to make up a father in that case, or did they not bother as it was their home parish and everyone knew anyway. Your ideas would be much appreciated as I haven't got a clue where to go from here. Can't get birth certs as born pre 1837.