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'Bye the way - DID YOU KNOW WE HAD A MUTINEER IN T

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Judy

Judy Report 27 Feb 2005 01:07

I understand Fletcher Christian originally came from Cumbria (Cumberland) so that might be a good starting point to track down his ancestors obviously Pitcairn would be the place to track if he had any descendents. Not sure,but I don't think there were any. However you have all made me curious so will go off a do some researching ! Happy Hunting All Judy

Slinky

Slinky Report 26 Feb 2005 21:09

Just looked on IGI and found Fletcher Christian born 23/9/1764 in Cumberland...died Pitcairn 3/10/1793....married Isabella Maimiti MaUatua about 1788 In Tahiti, lles du Vent, Pacific Islands. Anne.

Dea

Dea Report 26 Feb 2005 18:36

Don't mind the odd hijacker Laird, - It's the pirates that I'm worried about. Dea x

Unknown

Unknown Report 26 Feb 2005 17:48

Had to delete previous post as Peter deleted his question, and mine didnt 'stand-alone' ... Sorry to semi-hijack the thread. Will be very interested in progress. Fascinating

♥♪ˇ Karen

♥♪ˇ Karen Report 26 Feb 2005 17:41

9 boobies is a brag alright !! LOL Pitcain Island is still full od Christian's ancestors. I don't know why they would be anywhere else.

Dea

Dea Report 26 Feb 2005 16:46

Karen, Thank you - now all I have to do is prove the connection - wouldn't it be wonderful if this is truly my relative? Dea x Mind you - I don't know if I want a rellie who had boasted that he had eaten 9 raw boobies??

♥♪ˇ Karen

♥♪ˇ Karen Report 26 Feb 2005 15:49

Robert Lamb - Butcher Loyalist, age 21 Although he remained loyal to his Captain, his disillusionment with Bligh came at least in part from a flogging, in which he received 12 lashes for 'suffering his cleaver to be stolen'. During the voyage of the Launch, he sided with Fryer in his disputes with Bligh. He was also the subject of an incident that occurred on 1 Jun 1789, according to Bligh's log. It was after 8:00 when the Launch stopped at the most southwesterly of the islands that Capt. Cook had named the 'Bird Islands'. 'At Sunday Island, named for the day of the week they landed on it, matters got worse and there was almost another mutiny. Besides those perennial trouble-makers, Fryer and Purcell, Fryer's brother-in-law young Robert Tinkler, Robert Lamb the butcher, George Simpson, Tom Hall the cook and the surviving quartermaster Peter Linkletter, all formed into an anti-Bligh group. Again the dispute was over food. Bligh sent out parties in different directions about the island. Some grumbled and said they were too weak or too ill to search for oysters, among them the master's mate Elphinstone, a firm Bligh ally and for this reason alone always a target for Fryer's nagging. Fryer at length went off with his party, muttering that is was every man for himself and there was no one too sick for the duty. When he returned to the boat later, carrying a bag of clams and oysters and some dog fish, he heard the sound of raised voices. His crony Purcell had arrived back first and Bligh was cursing him, while the carpenter was answering obscenity with obscenity. 'The failure to kill more than a few noddy birds and a handful of clams at this islet, brought about by the undisciplined behaviour of his men, was almost more than Bligh could bear. By making too much noise the turtling party succeeded only in driving them away before any could be caught. Then one of the bird-hunting party, Robert Lamb, who had been a constant trouble, went ahead and frightened the birds they found in a cove. Bligh gave him a good beating when he heard. Later the man boasted that he had eaten on the quiet no fewer than nine boobies raw.' Captain BLIGH & Mister CHRISTIAN, by Richard Hough In late 1789 or early 1790, Lamb boarded ship to return to England from Batavia, however, at some time during the voyage, he was stricken ill, and died before the ship arrived. He was buried at sea.

♥♪ˇ Karen

♥♪ˇ Karen Report 26 Feb 2005 15:47

Most of the blokes on Pitcain island are in gaol now aren't they? They like young girls. Too much inbreeding I guess.

Dea

Dea Report 26 Feb 2005 15:12

Thanks Anne - I WILL update you - mind you we all know that these stories can be just a figment of an ancestor's imagination. It's exciting to follow it up though - you never know, Robert Lamb has to belong to someone ! Dea

Slinky

Slinky Report 26 Feb 2005 15:09

Thats absolutely wonderful Dea...what a find!! Please give us updates on your mutineer...sounds fascinating. Anne

Dea

Dea Report 26 Feb 2005 14:24

Just spoken on the phone to my uncle who mid-conversation casually threw in 'bye the way did you know we had a mutineer in the family?' When questioned further he told me about one of our ancesters who had been involved in the Mutiny on the Bounty with Fletcher Christian (+Captain Bligh)!!!!!!!!!!!! Not being a genious when it comes to Military history, I've just googled the event and sure enough there was a Robert Lamb - butcher mentioned as member of the Crewe when the 'BOUNTY' sailed from Portsmouth on 28th Nov., 1787. WOW!! Need to look into this further - more work!! If anyone knows anything I would really appreciate any information. Thanks, Dea

Dea

Dea Report 26 Feb 2005 14:24

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