Genealogy Chat

I don't know about N. Ireland but my husband is from the the south and has ordered all his certs. using the references in the Civil Registers held by the LDS in London. They are only £3-4 & if you only want a photocopy of the entry in the register andyou have the reference that's only £1.50.

It was the same when i applied for my granddads birth cert 1913. I knew his exact date of birth. but they wanted the address and the mother maiden name. Talk about annoying... the whole reason i wanted the cert was to find out the mother maiden name!!!!!!!!

Yes the indexes are copies of the transcribed books however I have been informed they are the books from Dublin not Northern Ireland and the Northern Ireland GRO will not recognize that information they have their own way of doing things. However the year and quarter are the same, just not the other reference info. I've had a couple of certs arrive as well just by firing off just a name and year and have been lucky but I include as much detail as I have.

Google 'Ulster Historical Foundation' for Down and Antrim records. There're 1.6 million transcriptions. Not bad, as they have as much information as a certificate, but quite pricey as you buy a name (eg John Smith) for £10 and can then look at 5 records for John Smith. Irish naming patterns have never been so welcome.

Gordon, Are the indees that are on microfilm not just copies of the transcribed books? I have looked at them in the LDS in London, and to me it just seemed to be like 1837 online. I did find the people I was looking for, but have not yt tried to order the certs. On the other hand I got a couple of certificates from Ireland a couple of years ago with no problem. I only had names and year of birth. Maybe it depends on how common the name is? Pat

2 websites that some people might find of use: First one: https://www(.)irishgenealogy(.)ie/csi/all_counties/csi.cfm This one has some selected counties on it and indicates the reocrds that are kept by some of the county research centres. If your ancestor is listed you can ask them to find at a cost the record for you. I have had excellent service from Leitrim and South Mayo however I know that some of the other counties do not have as good a reputation. Second one: http://www.cmcrp.net/index.php CMC project where researches have listed the records they have. If your ancestor is on the list the individual who has donated the record can be contacted. Both sites cover selected counties and are far from complete. Karen

Irish ancestors are a pain.. Where can you find the transcripts for Down Sarah

I assume they have the records filed by church as that was how they arrived: each church handed in their details and no-one ever indexed them again. What I do not understand is why you have to know every little detail. After all the site says 'We automatically search two years either side of the date specified if the entry has not been located.' Unsure of the date? No problem. Don't know the mother's/bride's current address? No can do. Or at least, they could do it but they don't want to. Still at least some transcriptions for Down and Antrim are online. Pricey, but they have us by the short and curlies and they know it.

Thanks for that information Gordon.I have looked for Irish marriages in the Mormon indexes but have never found any of mine.Years ago when attempting to do some Irish genealogy I was told I'd need the town and church and date.I thought to myself that if I had that information there wouldn't be much need to get a certificate.The Irish haven't been helpful at all with regards to genealogy. Wendy

I just thought I would save everybody the aggravation I have just gone through with the Irish Gov't regarding the BMD indexes that the Mormon's have. In a word, it's all basically a waste of time, the GRO there does NOT recognize the Vol and Page Number references which are on the microfilms, doesn't mean a thing to them. It can be useful to narrow down the event by year and district but that is about it. Yesterday I finally found my 2nd Great Grandparent's marriage event in the index, and you can appreciate my astonishment when told I was expected to know their exact postal address and the exact church. How would I know? This took place well over 120 years ago.