Genealogy Chat

Have decided to order the certificate-who knows aht that might turn up? ........Mum and dad are probably totally different to anyone we have found so far! Alice

Hello Collette Just bought credits for 1837 online and cannot find him - yet he would only be a year old! I will order the certificate! he is a direct descendant of mine (what an odd lot!) The bank manager will just have to accept..... it LOL! Thank you for your help with this...... Going to resurrect my hunt for John Smith next! Alice

Alice i am baffled haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i meant the Old George and the James with the wife Martha maybe connected not your James awwwwwwww what a mess to say the least, Old George was born in Hants and James born in Surrey and Henry born in Berkshire. Looking on the IGI there are only 2 Stillwells in Berkshire so the name isn't familiar around that county. The certificate is the only way or what about a BVRI look up you never know or someone with access to St Martins parish records Dorking. Good Luck i dont envy you Col xxxxxxxxxx

Thanks Collette. I really don't know what to make of it! Alice

Thank you Nell, that looks like him - not another close to that date on the census. But he was living with a different family ad=s stepson in 1881- then had his oe=wn family by 1891. I don't know who his father was for sure. Did stepson mean the same as it does today? Of course he may only have been there overnight, but then I cannot find the father or mother from the 1871 census on the 1881, so I assume something happened! Do ihave to invest in certificate?? alice

Hi Alice i see your dilema. Marriage 1864 Henry Isaac Stillwell to Jane Cousell Kingston On Thames. They cannot be his parents. 1871 Census Henry I Stillwell age 28 b Newbury Berks Jane age 26 b Thames Fitton Surrey Son Henry age 5 b Thames Fitton. No James with them. 1881 as you know James is with them as stepson maybe he should be nephew. 1871 Castle Cottages Dorking St Martins James Stillwell age 47 Labourer b Shere Surrey Martha age 44 b Surrey Isaac age 9 b Dorking Thomas age 7 b Dorking John age 5 b Dorking Lizzie age 3 b Dorking Henry age 5mths b Dorking James Stillwell christened Shene Surrey 1825 father James mother Barbara. what i find odd is they dont have a son named James yet his dad was James, maybe your James belongs to this couple. On the 1871 he is with George and Emma Mary same parish St Martins, also they have a son in law John Richard Milner ?? hard to read his surname to be sure, but he is down as Unmarried which is strange as if he had married their daughter and she had died he should be Widower. I think there has to be a connection to these familys, maybe George is James's uncle as he is not his father. All James's kids are born in Dorking too. Let me think more Col xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This is the nearest one to 1861 on ancestry civil reg: Name: STILLWELL, James Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1860 District: Dorking County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 111 nell

Sorry Nell. slip of the finger and a bit too much to drink! I meant to say Dorking. Alice

Do you mean Docking Surrey, or Dorking Surrey? nell

On the 1871 he is living with George Stillwell and Emma. George is listed as head and James as son. In 1881 he is living with Henry a Barge builder and wife Jane. He is listed as a stepson - but I would have thought one of the parents would have been the same! (prob mum remarried).James grew up to be a barge builder so this is likely to be him. I guess I have the same James as I cannot find a James with George and Emma as parents on the 1881. Trying to trace him back. Where do I go from here? Any help greatfully received Alice

I need to work out who his parents were but perhaps I will just have toaccept that I will need to buy his birth certificate! see below.