Genealogy Chat

Oh by the way, just looked back and its very possible that the girl shown born Ireland was in fact born Shropshire and James and her birthplace have been transposed. Theyve already made a mistake in where she is staying! The ages seemed to have varied a bit - which isnt unusual but it would be nice if they were constant. Anyway, do double check everything just to make sure. Seems like James dad must be the Patrick born Ireland 1820 wasnt it? Look for the marriage - its likely your nan was named after her mum, so you may find he married a Jane. Good luck.

i have tried that for jane my gran but had no luck i did find a john keough instead do you think that its possible that a mistake had been made there and thats her im really very gratefull for all your help thanks very much

Unfortunately, assuming he was 18 at least when he married that would be 1910 and there are very few FreeBMD records for that. If you really want to know, then I suggest you go to 1837online and spend a fiver checking marriages in Walsall about that time. However, it looks like he may have left grans home before then. You can use the credits you have over to look for your nans birth too. Good luck. Shouldnt be too hard - not common name. Also, I would have a look at Patrick born 1820 and Susan I think it was from Ireland living in Walsall. Should think they are also your ancestors. Re James, yes I hadnt checked his birthplace. It just that mistakes happen. I think you should have a look at the home page and the tips they give for new researchers. Also you can always ask very nicely for kind people to help you on here. Afraid I have to dash now, late to meet someone.

on the 1881 it says that he was bn in roscommon county ireland doesnt it

Why do you think James was from Ireland? Everyone on the list is in the same household. Actually on the 1901 there was also someone else on the actual census image a John Jennings, shown as Uncle. So could be Catherine's maiden name for you to check.

sorry if i sound stupid but im still trying to get the hang of all this have you any ideas on how i can find who patrick jnr married

how did you do that ,but it doesnt say that james was bn in ireland or does it is the niece a keough also

This looks like them in 1891 - interesting someone staying from Canada. Kough, Catharine 52 Walsall, Staffordshire Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Kough, Catharine 15 Walsall, Staffordshire Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Kough, Cathe M 23 Can Niece Wolverhampton Staffordshire Kough, James C 54 Salop, Shropshire / Salop Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Kough, Patience C 15 Ireland Boarder Lewisham London Oh yes, it does happen all the time! You must be new to this! Check out the mistranscription postings - we have had some hilarious ones. And the ages change too. But you should check the image as often its just a mistranscription. Look at the girl staying with them, Patience. It has place of birth Ireland then says she is staying in Lewisham, but she was actually with them in Walsall.

no im going to sound evan more daft i found them but dissmissed them as the surname was spelt different can that happen then i had been told that i had connections with ireland but never new any more than that

Here they are in 1881: Viewing 1-10 of 10 Match Quality Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Catherine Kough abt 1844 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Foreign Catherine Kough abt 1876 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Edward Kough abt 1874 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign James Kough abt 1837 Roscommon County, Ireland Head Walsall Foreign James Kough abt 1867 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign John Kough abt 1880 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Mary Ann Kough abt 1861 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Patrick Kough abt 1871 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Thomas Kough abt 1865 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign William Kough abt 1878 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Notice that there is an Irish connection and I have seen a Patrick Keough born Ireland 1820 who is probably Patricks grandad, living in Walsall.

yes they are the ones never thought of that but it still doesnt show any mother for him im sure that patrick jnr is my great grandfather any ideas on where to go from here or find out any more info on the others as you can probably guess ive still not got to grips with this

Catherine Keough 61 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Staffordshire Kate Keough 22 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire Mary A Keough 11 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire Patrick Keough 26 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Patrick Keough 9 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Grandson Walsall Staffordshire Tomas Keough 36 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Is this not him? Patrick Junior could be the son of Tomas

patrick was bn 1875 or so it says in 1901 in walsall staffs his son was bn 1892 walsall staffs i cant understand why there is no mother for patrick jnr and i also cant find a husband for catherine keough the gran

You wont be able to find them after 1901 on line as thats the latest census available. What age is the Patrick senior in the census and any other details you have for him please. What was your grans name?

for the past 12 mths ive been trying to trace my moms grandparents my mom lost her parents when she was very young and therefor i didnt have much to go on i know that her grandfather was patrick keough he lived in walsall staffs and my gran was bn about 1912 but i cant find a birth for her any way just found 2 patricks on 1901 census who are father and son they live with the older patricks mom catherine keough but i cant find them before 1901 or any thing after i know that they have to be some where can any one please help