Genealogy Chat

Very many thanks for that. As I say I think the Harriet could be set aside for the moment. I have the boys birth ref now may be bite the bullet another £7 time! I think it must be Ellen who is the wife as the daughter, shown as Minnie on the 1901 was actually named Ellen too. No sign of a mini Harriet, althought thats no conclusive evidence. Very grateful to everyone.

Heather som emarriages it may be worth looking into: I searched for THomas Jenkins marrying a Harriet between 1880 and 1895 - these were the two in London Marriages Dec 1889 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bing  Bertha    St.Giles  1b 961   Hutton  Harriet    St Giles  1b 961   Jenkins  Thomas    St Giles  1b 961   Philo  Sarah Ann    St. Giles  1b 961   SONNENBERG  Theodor    St. Giles  1b 961 Marriages Sep 1892 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bennett  Henry    St.Saviour  1d 351   Bennett  Henry    St.Saviour  1d 351   HESKETH  Harriett    St. Saviour  1d 351   Jenkins  Thomas    St Saviour Southwark  1d 351   Wheeler  Edith    St. Saviour  1d 351 and the others in case the ares tinkle military bells: Marriages Jun 1885 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenkins  Thomas    Chepstow  11a 22   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marriages Mar 1887 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenkins  Thomas    Forden  11b 239   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marriages Mar 1890 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenkins  Thomas Edmund    Stockton  10a 83   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marriages Mar 1893 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenkins  Thomas    Neath  11a 833   Jenkins  Thomas Hayes    Windsor  2c 620   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marriages Sep 1895 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenkins  Thomas    Haverfordwest  11a 1665

Would tie in beautifully, Lou but as I said I now remember this two. The mother is shown born Clerkenwell which exited me when I first saw them as my boy is shown as born Clerkenwell. However, on the census for Harriet he isnt born there and the father is a year younger than expected and also shown born Berks instead of Herefordshire. Back to the drawing board on this I think. Shame, so many coincidences with it. Unless dad was lying because he should have been in barracks that night?

Hi, thanks for the interest guys. Someone on the record board has set me wondering. They have found a Harriet Jenkins in 1891 with a husband Tom, a soldier and son Tom. It does suggest that maybe Ellen is the second wife, which would tie in with a marriage in 1901. (UPDATE - no, I remember this couple now and there are too many inconsistencies for them to be my couple, wrong places of birth for son and dad and wrong age for dad). 1901 census Thomas Jenkins 39 Ross, Herefordshire, England Head railway porter Ellen Jenkins 39 Longcroff, Berkshire, England Wife Thomas Jenkins 11 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Albert Jenkins 7 Westminster, London, England Son Minnie Jenkins 6 Westminster, London, England Daughter Annie Jenkins 3 Westminster, London, England Daughter 140 stanhope bdgs red cross street Southwark St Saviour Although the last 3 kids are shown as born Westminster they were actually registered in Southwark. I wonder if they had any married quarters or something when he was in Westminster barracks?

Heather This is the ONLY Thomas Jenkins/Ellen marriage in London between the 2 census anywhere in London, London Middlesex, London Surrey Cook, Ellen 1901 June Poplar London Middlesex 1c 1048 Jenkins, Thomas 1901 June Poplar London Middlesex 1c 1048 Lou

Many thanks Jim!!! My first bit of a breakthrough.

Can anyone find Thomas Jenkins born c1890 Clerkenwell in the 1891 please. I have him living with family in 1901 aged 11. Father, Thomas Jenkins (what else?) was a soldier born Herefordshire and in Westminster barracks in the 1891 census. In the 1901 he is with the family and working as a railway porter. Mother I only know first name (from the 1901) as Ellen born 1862 ish in Berkshire. This is driving me mad!