Genealogy Chat

Hi Christa, Thanks for the info, I did have that already though, but it's the thought that counts. The Bushbacker or Backbusher or whatever it was you put down, is "Bashley Hants". Have sent you an "e" in case this gets paged out. Thanks again, regards, Mick D.

Hi Mick, Is that the Mick I met in Winchester? Last time I was back I was searching pauper's graves in Milton Cemetary in Portsmouth. You can call them and they will tell you if she's buried there. Here's the family in 1871: 7 Wickham St Elisha F J Berumen 4 Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire Emma Berumen 30 Bushbasen?, Hampshire, England Wife Portsea Hampshire Frederick Berumen 28 Shorncliffe, Kent, England Head Portsea Hampshire retired seaman William S Berumen 8 months Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire Crista

Hi Christine, Thanks for your reply. I agree with what you said regarding overseers filling in census forms etc for the "underlings", hence the lot of wrong names (as in this case). I had her on the 1901, as did Linda. It,s just her death that I can find no record of. Incidentally, one of her sons, Henry John Brunnen, b1873, and his family, does not appear in the 1901 census from Ancestry, but I have him, with a copy of the census page, from the Gov 1901. Living at Weeke Within Winchester. Just goes to show that you have to trawl through all the sites as well as do the pro visits. Regards, Mick D.

Mick From what I've read on other threads, if she weren't responsible for her own census records (and probably wasn't) the overseer may well have not bothered about where/when she was actually born (also true for servants where employers filled in the data). It could still be she, whom Linda found in the 1901 census - if you haven't found her definitively elsewhere. cheers Christine

To:- Deborah, Linda, Sue and Mary, Thankyou all for taking the time to answer. Deborah, Thanks for the tip about the museum, I,m only 18 miles up the road, so will try to get down there and take a peek. Linda, "My" Emma was nee Peckham b1841 (ish). It,s just her death that I can,t confirm. Sue, Thanks for sharing that. Mary, Thanks for the Info. May you all be lucky with your searches, Regards Mick D.

Hi, I'm transcribing records for my local cemetery. There are lots of inmates, young and old, who were buried from the Workhouse. Although there is no grave marker for them they were given the dignity of a Christian burial and a numbered plot in the cemetery, although it may not have been exclusively theirs. This being the case it is possible to get the plot number from the appropriate local authority and pinpoint the exact location. Even if it is only a little square of grass you know that they are there and can leave a few flowers. In a few cases here there have been little name plaques placed, presumably by fellow genealogists! Mary

My Grandmother was burried in a paupers grave in about 1927, My Mother found it when she was in her teens (late 1930's) there were 6 people in the grave, all were listed. When Mum went back a some years later she couldn't find it at all. I did some research and was told that the memorial only stays for a limited number of years (Can't remember how many!) afte that the area gets reused. Certainly her death is registered as ususal and there is a record at the cemetery (on line-I found it) of her burial. Suex

hi found this in 1901 Emma Brenan Age in 1901: 62 Estimated birth year: 1839 Relation: Pauper Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Portsmouth Ecclesiatical parish: Milton St James Town: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Linda

Hi Michael, Yes she would. Probably a mis-spelling. Just by coincidence 2 of my husband rellies were also buried in paupers graves at Portsea Island Union. At the time I was looking for the death of a Thomas Ashfield, just him. Found a Thomas Ashford, about the right age, right place. I wrote to Portsmouth City Museum & Records Office. They sent me copies of the burials for Thomas and one of his sons, who I didn't know was buried there! Gave me a bit more info too. They are very helpful there, brilliant staff. If you live near enough, it's a great day out too. The musum bit is wonderful. Best of luck Debbie

Cheers Naomi, I thought that that would be the case but needed reassuring. Oh well, back to the search. Regards, Mick D.

Hi Mick, Yes she should appear in all death records as normal.If she was still at the workhouse when she died the Master would have had to register her death. THe only thing you wont be able to find out is where she was buried as it would be an unmarked grave Naomix

Morning all, Can I pick your brains here?. My G/Grandmother was a pauper in Portsea Island Union Workhouse. She died, as they do, but I can find no record of her death. They had her name spelt wrong on the 1891 census form. Instead of "Emma Brunnen" they had "Emma Brumen". I know it IS her as she has her two sons with her. Now my question is, If she died a pauper and was buried in a paupers grave would she still appear in the death records as per normal? Cheers in advance, and seasons greetings to you all, Regards Mick Davie.