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My great great grandfather should be on the 1901 census aged 17 but i cannot find him at all. He is Oliver Cromwell Johnson and was born in Leciester in 1884. He is on the 1891 census aged 7 with his parents Alfred and Jane in Sheffield. He married wife Beatrice in 1907 and died 1917 in WW1. But i cant find him on the 1901. Would anyone have any ideas to why this could be or where he could be? Thanks, Claire

Hi, if he was still in Yorkshire in the 1901 that isnt on the census info of ancestry yet!

some nice people did some look ups for me for him and they couldnt find him at all in 1901. Ive been waiting ages for ancestry to update and add Yorkshire, getting impatient now, lol.

If he came from Hateton park and was a boiler maker Put in Olive Johnson Theres only one

Hi Peter, where did you get that? i dont have the 1901 census at all for yorkshire, waiting for ancestry to add it. He was a boiler maker on his wedding cert. Does it say who he is with? Where is Hateton Park? Regards, Claire

1901 census on line has all UK and I found him by thinking how would a miss scribe happen got it first go

ah rite, thanks for that peter. Olive?? didnt think of that mistranscription but at least he is there. Regards, Claire

I was intrigued and followed up Peter's idea, specifying "male", but with a bit of an age-range to allow for discrepancies and got this list: Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation Oliver Johnson 15 Glam Cardiff Glamorgan St Mary Oliver Johnson 15 Lancs Morecambe Lancaster Poulton Bare & Torrisholme Edge Minder Table ... Oliver Johnson 16 Lancs Urmston Lancaster Urmston Gardener Domestic Olive Johnson 17 Haneton Park Lanc Sheffield Brightside Bierlow Boiler Maker Roller Oliver Johnson 17 Durham Waldridge Durham Chester Le Street Coal Miner Putter Oliver Johnson 18 Earls Colne Essex Essex Halstead Urban Enigneer Turner Oliver Johnson 18 Staffs Longton Staffordshire Longton Potters Fireman Oven Oliver Johnson 18 Warwickshire Aston Staffordshire Handsworth Railway Engine Cleaner Oliver Johnson 19 Bedfordshire Bedford Lancashire Preston Hatter Hosier Assist The only problem is that none of them is born in Leicestershire - or not according to the transcriptions (which are clearly not infallible). The 17-yr-old(ish) males called "Olive(r)" and born in Leics don't seem to have surnames resembling Johnson. Christine

Just following peters line....... Olive Johnson 17 Haneton Park Lanc Sheffield Brightside Bierlow Boiler Maker Roller Alfred Johnson 49 Woodlock Oxford Sheffield Brightside Bierlow Engine Wks Labourer According to the decoder alfred is widowed. Olive is down as 'son' but I haven't looked ast the image - I've used the decoder and they have the same ID number I looked for the other family members but no luck !! Hope this helps a bit.........But you relly need to see the image to be sure Esta

Hi Christine, The Olive Johnson aged 17 looks to be the only one that could be him, He is definately born Leicester but 1891 census classed it as in Yorkshire! he was a boiler maker in 1907 and will be in sheffield in 1901 so is the only one really that could be him can you see who he is with at all? Claire

Hi Esta, Thats him! His dad was called Alfred and Alfred was born in Oxfordshire. Thank you so much, Claire

I took the info from above and put it in 1901 quick check he was not there came back to details and knocked off the A every thing eles was the same. Up came one Olive johnson 17 Ect

Well, i got all intrigued so have gone on the 1901 site and put some credits on to search this Olive and it is him! Olive V Johnson, bit different to Oliver C Johnson as it should be, lol. The other people on it has confirmed that this is him, Thanks to all of you that helped, Regards, Claire