Genealogy Chat

Sorry to take so long to reply, Trish. I've been pretending to work today. Burgess Rolls are what they are calling Electoral Rolls in Portsmouth circa 1900. There are separate lists for the different sorts of voters, including those few women who were entitled to vote in local elections. They have been published, by ward, for 1900 itself. Brenda

Thanks Peter, I will contact the Newspaper and see what I can find. Thanks again Brenda This may sound silly, but what are Burgess Rolls? Trish

Have you tried the Portsmouth News (News paper) There might of been an announcement. I do'nt know if they have an arcihve but you can contact them at WWW(.)portsmouthtoday(.)co(.)uk remove ()

Burgess rolls and directories ought between them to indicate whether these are two separate families or a single one. My Portsmouth families baffle me with the paucity of christian names they use and the way they are never known by their given names. Good luck B

Hi Brenda Thanks for the info. I have already seen this and thought it was a connection but am now not so sure. I looked for a death for Mary Bradfield and could not find one - also the son is called Albert and that would mean George called 2 of his sons Albert. Thank you so much for your help. Hopefully when I receive electoral info and the other birth certificate it will give me some more clues. Thanks again. Trish

Could this be George's birth and first marriage? Births Sep 1875 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradfield Albert George M Portsea Island 2b 391 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradfield Albert George M Portsea 2b 895 Crusoe Henry William Portsea I. 2b 895 Gover Emma Portsea 2b 895 Philpott Mary Matilda E J Portsea I. 2b 895

These are Portsmouth Bradfields in 1901 where it looks as if George is married to Mary, with children Albert, Hilda and May: Albert Bradfield 5 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Anne Bradfield 62 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Elsie Bradfield 6 Lincoln Grimsby Hants Portsmouth Emma Bradfield 31 Bristol Hampshire Portsmouth Ernest Bradfield 5 Bristol Hampshire Portsmouth Ernest Bradfield 32 Devon Plymouth Hampshire Portsmouth Shipwright Ethel Bradfield 6 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth George Bradfield 27 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Plumber Gertrude Bradfield 26 Lincoln Grimsby Hants Portsmouth Gladys Bradfield 14 Bucks St Mailo Hampshire Portsmouth Henry Bradfield 20 Berks Reading Southampton Portsmouth Electrical Engineer Hilda Bradfield 3 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Julia Bradfield 39 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Lillian Bradfield 6M Hant Portsmouth Hampshire Portsmouth Mary Bradfield 28 Kent Chatham Southampton Portsmouth May Bradfield 3M Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Olive Bradfield 7 Bristol Hampshire Portsmouth Sidney Bradfield 1 Hants Portsmouth Hants Portsmouth Thomas Bradfield 39 Hants Portsmouth Southampton Portsmouth Plumber Thomas Bradfield 72 Hants Itchen Southampton Portsmouth Naval Pensioner William Bradfield 31 Devon Brixham Hants Portsmouth Shipwright

You may already have it, but this looks like George in 1881: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas BRADFIELD Head M Male 51 Hitcham, Norfolk, England Pensioner R N Ann BRADFIELD Wife M Female 46 Landport, Hampshire, England Pensioner Wife Thomas BRADFIELD Son U Male 19 Landport, Hampshire, England Gas Fitter George BRADFIELD Son Male 5 Landport, Hampshire, England Scholar James BURBRIDGE Nephew Male 15 Landport, Hampshire, England Gas Fitter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 6 Albert Street Census Place Kingston, Hampshire, England Family History Library Film 1341279 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1141 / 122 Page Number 19

Hi Brenda His death certificate and all of the birth certificates state that he was a Rag & Bone Dealer. I'm not sure about him fighting in WW1. I tried the site for military records but nothing came up. Two of his children were born during WW1 so not sure if he did go to war. Trish

Hi Trish The birth certificate you have sent off for may show that the eldest daughter has a different mother. You don't state the period you chose to search. Does it go right up to the births of the younger children? Did George Bradfield fight in WW1? He would have been a bit old, but if he was called up and his soldier's documents survived, these might give marriage details? As he moved from Greenwich to Portsmouth, what was his occupation? Was it connected with the dockyards? I don't know how good the later records are, but they are fantastic for the 1800s, particularly for pensions. These might hold details, particularly of where he started working. Hope this helps. Brenda

GEORGE BRADFIELD married ALICE LOUISA. The childrens birth certificates all say ALICE LOUISA BRADFIELD formerly NORRIS. George died in 1940 aged 64 in Portsmouth. The death announcement in Newspaper says " loving wife Alice and son, daughters, daughter-in-law, son-in-law and grandchildren. Alice died in 1962 aged 81 in Portsmouth. The Thanks for Sympathy announcement in Newspaper says "sons and daughters late Mrs Bradfield. The children they had were: Emily E Bradfield born 1904 in Greenwich. Died 1941 in Portsmouth. Married in 1922 to Sydney Link in Chertsey. Annie Charlotte Beatrice born 1913 in Portsmouth. Died 1914 in Portsmouth. Albert Robert Charles Bradfield born 1915 in Portsmouth. Died in 1986 in Islington. Married in 1936 to Jessie Temperley. William Thomas Bradfield born 1918 in Portsmouth. Died 1964 in Portsmouth. Married in 1950 to Eleanor Susan White in Portsmouth. I have just wrote to Portsmouth library for information from Electoral Roll for the addresses that I know. I only found out about Emily last week and have sent for her birth certificate. Emily had 10 children and I have been in touch with 1 of them but she can't remember much about her grandparents. I have tried trawling through 1837online, freebmd, ancestry, familyhistory online, familysearch and have come up with nothing regards their marriage. I know there was another child but no-one knows her name. She married and moved to Chichester. Sorry to go on and on but any new input would be wonderful. Thanks Trish

I am going around in circles trying to find my g.grandparents marriage. Information I have and where I have looked is below.