Genealogy Chat

have come to a hault ....giving me a headache....cant find gg/gf on 1871 census...he is on the 1891 & 1901 ...with wife and children ...2 oldest left home i assume for the 1901....cant find trace of family at all....not even marriage cert...cannot also even find birth deatails of family on 1855 census ....he was born in 1839 any suggestions....plzzzeeee

We might be able to help you if you list names and dates etc. Crista

thank you.....john collins b 1839....married agnes collins b 1841...have no marriage date....four chgildren int total....rosamund b 1862.....willie R b1870......John J b1882 & thomas A b 1885.... Much appreciated.... John was born in Gornal(i think) staffs and Agnes was born in Kensington middlesex Much apreciated thank xx

Here he is in 1881: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John COLLINS Head M Male 42 Gornall, Stafford, England Blast Furnace Keeper (Iron) Anges COLLINS Wife M Female 40 Middlesex, England W.Robt. COLLINS Son U Male 23 Middlesex, England No Occ Dwelling 72 Derwent St Census Place Middlesbrough, York, England Crista

ok hun....what am i doing wrong????? I need to find marriage date etc....and then i need to look for his parents..... where did you get that info???? I am brain dead.....than k you xx

Heidi, Got that from here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp Crista

thanks again Crista....I did think that......but the 2 eldest were down as son to the head.....???? in 1891.... I also have them both down as being born in wittingham in derbyshire....which doesnt make sens as the 2 yougest were born in kirkleath yorkshire....do you thinnk maybe wrong even tho 1901 also says the same???xxxxx

I think you have made a mistake with some ages - 1891 says Rosamund is 1872 and Willie is 1880 - which case there probably wasn't a "family" in 1871.

thank you geoff.....but now i am even more confused....did my search thru ancestry.co.uk 1891 census tells me about all 4 children...all being s&d's to the head.....took the dates from there....have the 2 eldest somewhat older with rosamund b in1862 & willie in 1870 Heklp appreciated....need to make my father happy for xmas xxx

Heidi, Your maths is out. If they are 19 and 11 in 1891 then they were born c1872 and c1880. There could be an error in the 1881 census. Perhaps Willie R and W Robt are the same person. 23 could be 23 months? Crista

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Ok i have 29 & 21 FOR 1891 and 19 & 11 for 1881.....wiilie r and w robert are one and the same..... I have only been doing this for a week and got really far....i am addicted but have a huge headache....i just need to find John's parents.... booo hooo than ks again xxxx

Think I have Rosamond in 1901: There is a Rosamond Collins marrying a Ernest Ward in 1894 Elizabeth A Ward 3 Sheepbridge, Derbyshire, England Daughter Elmton Derbyshire Ellen Ward 4 months Creswell, Derbyshire, England Daughter Elmton Derbyshire Emily A Ward 5 Sheepbridge, Derbyshire, England Daughter Elmton Derbyshire Ernest Ward 31 Sheepbridge, Derbyshire, England Head Elmton Derbyshire John J Ward 1 Creswell, Derbyshire, England Son Elmton Derbyshire Rosamond Ward 27 Sheepbridge, Derbyshire, England Wife Elmton Derbyshire Seems like this could be her as the first child is Emily Agnes and there's a John J too. Crista

wow ...didnt xpect that 1 thannks again..... I have recorded it but at the moment just delving on the male side and so dearly wish to find out John's parents names....we think could be from ireland.... thank you hun xxxx very much appreciated

Heidi, I think you may have to splash out for one of the children's birth certs so you can get Agnes' maiden name. Once you have that it will make it a lot easier to find their marriage and John's father's name. Unfortunately, there are so many Collins. These look likely candidates: Births Jun 1879 Collins Willie Robert Chesterfield 7b 681 Births Dec 1881 Collins John Joseph Guisborough 9d 521 Births Sep 1884 Collins Thomas Arthur Guisbro' 9d 529 The Willie Robert one is interesting because that would make him around 23 months in 1881. Crista

Heidi, Found this on IGI: WILLIE ROBERT COLLINS Birth: 12 MAY 1879 Whittington, Chesterfield, Derby, England Death: 25 APR 1929 Parents: Father: JOHN COLLINS Family Mother: AGNES POULTON So this looks like their marriage. Rosamund must be 17 in 1891. That's how it was transcribed and she is 27 in 1901. Marriages Mar 1874 COLLINS John Sheffield 9c 605 Poulton Agnes Sheffield 9c 605 Births Mar 1841 Poulton Agnes Kensington 3 276 Crista