Genealogy Chat

Thanks nell for the address of the records office in carmarthen I will ring them only hope that they can help the problem is that martha agnus was the only grandmother I knew about and thought she was my fathers mother seems not nor brothers and sisters mother I only have one aunt alive and even she cant remember her birth mother. all seems strange to me. Regards marilyn

These are either sisters or the same person. You really need to find their birth/marriage/death certs. The Camarthen parish records would be at Record Office: Carmarthenshire Archive Service, Parc Myrddin, Waun Dew, Carmarthen, SA31 1JP. (01267)228232. [email protected] nell

Thanks marjorie but how do I go about either proving they were the same or sister or as someone else said two completely different families.

Marjorie I think at one point it was illegal to marry your deceased spouse's sibling - this may have been why it was a secret. It was far from uncommon though - don't think anyone took much notice of such a silly law! Maz. XX

Try your nearest LDS family history centre, who will get the PRs for you at a small cost - maybe cheaper than going to the Records Office. A friend of mine, after her father died she found amongst his papers his marriage certificate. She thought this was rather odd, because when her mother had died, he had given her her mothers marriage certificate - two marriage certificates in other words, identical in every respect, except one was dated two years after the other. Both were original certificates, she thought this very odd and eventually contacted the Registrar concerned. It turned out that her mother was Mary May, died in childbirth and her father married the twin sister, May Mary(God, what an imagination those parents had) two years later. Her family knew about it, his didnt, so no-one ever mentioned it! My friend was very upset about this and doesnt know why it was all shrouded in such stupid secrecy.

Please can anyone help me I have a Margaret Ellen Phillips born 1892 married David Williams have marriage cert but cannot find birth/death cert checked all possible years and changed name around then I have a martha angus phillips who may have or not also married david williams when Margaret died sometime after 1929 I have birth/death cert but no marriage martha was born 1895 both have fathers Richard Thomas Phillips both were miners. 4 children from 1st marriage have margaret ellen as mother. Could they have been sisters although both names do not show up on the 1901 census only martha agnus. Am I going mad or could they be one of the same. Also can any one tell me who could I contact in Carmarthen S Wales regarding parish records.