Genealogy Chat

thanks Chloe, I have received your e-mail, but unfortunately I couldn't open it. Can you send me it again? thank you for your help Lucia

Sent you an email, Lucia. Is this the John Lainson that was living with the Goodge's in 1871?? This is the 1881 Canadian census: Household: Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion John W. LAINSON M Male English 30 England Lawyer P Methodist Sarah Ann LAINSON M Female English 29 England P Methodist Anne M. LAINSON Female English 8 England P Methodist Arthur W. LAINSON Male English 6 O <Ontario> P Methodist Handma J. LAINSON Male English 4 O <Ontario> P Methodist Leonard B. LAINSON Male English 1 O <Ontario> P Methodist -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place St Andrew's Ward, Toronto, York, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375883 NA Film Number C-13247 District 134 Sub-district G Division 3 Page Number 73 Household Number 412 Also there's another Lainson living in Toronto, name is William E Lainson..... aged 18. Looked on 1871, there's a William E Lainson aged 8 living in Hayes Norwood with grandfather and aunt (Amelia's sister and father??) Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Census? Robert Bacobridge 50 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Hayes Norwood Middlesex Esther M Hoynes 35 West Drayton, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Norwood Middlesex William E Lainson 8 Norwood, Middlesex, England Grandson Hayes Norwood Middlesex Robert is a Shepherd.

thanks Chloe, that looks quite likely. I managed to find Mary ann's birth on familysearch and it shows her mother as Amelia Elizabeth Haines. I found Amelia's birth and it is in West Drayton.

Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Census? Alfred Goodge 35 Offey, Hertfordshire, England Head Hayes Norwood Middlesex Amelia B Goodge 36 West Drayton, Middlesex, England Wife Hayes Norwood Middlesex Eliza A Goodge 1 Southolt, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Norwood Middlesex John W Lainson 19 Southolt, Middlesex, England Stepson Hayes Norwood Middlesex These were on the 1871 England census. They KIND OF link to two things - the 1881 Canadian (Eliza and her age) and this marriage found on FreeBMD: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1866 ------------------------------------------------ Brown Mary A Brentford 3a 148 DARBY Joseph Brentford 3a 148 GOODGE Alfred Brentford 3a 148 Lainson Amelia E Brentford 3a 148

Is that the 1881 Canadian census? Found those details on the Canadian so just wanted to make sure and make it clear.

Ooops! Sorry....I missed copying the census year....it was 1881. His birth year showed on this census as 1876 although it could go a year either way as birth years are estimated using the age of the person. Judy

Hi Judy, Which census is this?

Could this be him (although birth year differs)? Household: Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion Alfred GOODGE M Male English 38 England Laborer Plymouth Bretheren Elizabeth GOODGE M Female English 46 England Plymouth Bretheren Henry G GOODGE Female English 23 England Plymouth Bretheren Elizabeth GOODGE Female English 11 England Plymouth Bretheren Annie M GOODGE Female English 9 England Plymouth Bretheren Albert E GOODGE Male English 5 Ontario Plymouth Bretheren Mary Ann GOODGE Female English 2 Ontario Plymouth Bretheren

Surrey History Service has records relating to Cane Hill and Netherne, though I don't know if this would include patient information. I had an ancestor who was in Broadmoor Asylum from 1863-1910, and after providing the archivist with lots of photocopied certificates to prove my connection with him, all I found out was the date he arrived, and his date and cause of death! LN

Hospital records database shows that records for Netherne are at the Surrey Record Office. I think you would have to demonstrate a relationship eg next of kin to look at records under 75 years old. Brenda

Hi Susie I think this could be him, but I don't know where he was born. The problem is that I have no way of proving whether it is him. According to his death certificate he was born c1883, but his age is different on his marriage certificate. I think this is likely to be his birth because my great grandmother was from London. thank you for your help, Lucia

hi lucia there is an albert alfred goodge on freeBMD born sept qtr 1879 in greenwich volume 1d pg 101 could this be him susie

I am trying to find out more about my great grandfather. He died in a mental hospital in Coulsdon, Surrey in 1952. I have discovered that there were two asylums there - Cane Hill and Netherne. Where can I find records for these hospitals? and What would they reveal? I don't know much about him - only that his name was Albert Goodge(I'm not even sure if that is his real name) and there is a rumour that he was German. I have his marriage certificate which I hoped would help me get back further, but I think he lied about his father because I can't find any Albert Goodge with a father called Alfred on 1881 census. I have looked at historical directories for Alfred Goodge, a tobacconist, but I can't find anything. I have tried the 1901 census, but I have no way of knowing whether I have found the right person as none of the family know anything about him and my grandfather didn't have any contact with his father's family. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thank you for your help, Lucia