Genealogy Chat

I have relatives in villages in Norfolk and in Gloucestershire where there are two fathers with the same first and second name, not apparently related to eachother, who have children with the same names. Obviously the people around in the village at the time knew which was which and who was who! LN

Don't forget that was the time when they named their children 1st son after fathers father 2nd son after mother father 3rd son after father 1st daughter after mothers mother 2nd daughter after fathers daughter 3rd daughter after mother If you think of all the sons having sons Richard possibly about the same time you could end up with at least 2 being married around the same time with children of similar names in the same parish. They started to change the way they named their children early 1800's. Irene

Complicated. Batches P001631 and M001631 are transcribed from a book which is a printed edition of the Great Harwood parish registers down to 1812. They've got Richard and Ellen Chippendale baptising Ellen in 1791 -- could be a different Richard, but I wouldn't bank on it. Then they've got Richard marrying Nancy Sharples in 1798 and baptising 5 kids: Thomas 1798-9 Ellen 1803 Mary 1805-6 Alice 1809-10 Nancy 1810 These are separate transcriptions of separate records, not an upload of somebody's tree, so if Nancy's name is wrong, it's been mistranscribed 6 times. Something odd though: Alice and Nancy were baptised together but born 2 months apart Then various contributors stick their oar in (actually, their input is probably older than the transcribed batches). One of them has got 4 of the kids, but loses Thomas, and gains a later one, Richard, born end of 1812 so baptised too late for the book. He gives the birth dates but not the baptism dates, and locates the family at Rishton (which didn't have its own parish church then). Birth dates match, except he's got Alice born 1807 not 1809, which will probably turn out to the right answer to the puzzle. And he's got daughter Nancy as another Mary He hasn't found the parents' births or marriage though. The dates you give look like standard estimates, they're calculated from the first child (mis-taking that to be Ellen 1803) by assuming they married the previous year at 25 and 21. (This was common practice, there was some point to it at one time) So we're left wondering where this contributor got his info from, and why he's got the mother's name as Mary. But that could be a simple mistake. Can't see two different Richards here though. The only reason to think there were two Richards is "Mary", but if she was real, and she wasn't an alias for Nancy, and there were two Richards, you then have to say the contributor has given Mary's Richard the other one's kids. Call those mistakes, and you've then got nothing left to corroborate his input at all. Alternatively, just let the contributor be wrong about Mary, and the rest is compatible with the transcribed info and could easily turn out to be correct as far as it goes. Unless of course you know different. What other info do you have on your 5g-gf?

I would agree with Bob and Brian, be wary of information added by a 3rd party. I have seen pedigrees posted on the site which cannot be possible. eg.a child born to a man who died 3 years previously.(not baptism, birth). Having said that it is a wonderful collection of information to point us in the right direction often, and for that I am very grateful.

IGI is either a transcription and therefore subject to the same caveat as any other transcription, or unsustantiated data submitted by third parties. Treat anything in it as a guide until verified with original sources.

There are a number of errors on the IGI. I treat it as a guide to the parish registers and always recheck. I would not take the IGI as an only source of information. Bob

Sorry Joy, Her goes Richard Chippendale born abt 1777 in Rishton lancashire married a Mary unknown Born About 1781 in Rishton according to the IGI there children were Ellen Born 1803 Mary Born 1805 Alice Born 1807 Mary Born 1810 Richard Born 1812 All born in Rishton

Regarding the father(s) they could have been cousins, or his wife could have died and he remarried. Regarding the child, it was quite common, if one did not survive infancy, to give another one the same name. Regarding the IGI, most of it which is in batches from parish registers (eg C023456) is as reliable as transcriptions from faded pages are likely to be.

I ask the above question because when looking for Children on my gr gr gr gr gr Grandfather it gave me 5 then looking at somebody from the same little town/Village 3 out of the five were down as his even though his wife's name is different and he was born at a different time. hope someone can help.