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JANET DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE RECORD OFFICE IN CORK PLEASE,As my grt grandfather/grandma got married in CORK AND I HAVE TO GO TO EITHER DUBLIN OR CORK FOR THIS INFO THANKS JANET SUE

Janet Thanks so much for all your help - I've saved all the info you've given me and I'm sure it'll prove very useful - I just need to follow up every lead in an attempt to get more info than "Cork". Thanks again :) David

David Griffiths was a valuation and headcount of households taken in Ireland around 1850's-1860's and practically everyone living in Ireland is on this Valuation and as there are no census for this period it is a very good source for finding a little more about your ancestors. However the online Griffiths is patchy and incomplete as are most records online! You will only find the INDEX online where you do find it. I found the best source of Griffiths in Dublin where they have the FULL Griffiths, which gives you more info on the families. The Index just gives you the name of head of household which is not of much use to you if you are looking for Patrick Sullivan from Cork! I have not as yet located a FULL Griffiths in Britain. Tithe Aplotments are a little earlier about 1840. The Griffiths usually indicates with a T whether or not the name you have is also in the Tithe Aplotments. These usually come in books for the various areas of Ireland and are found all over Ireland. Again some are online but incomplete and patchy. The difference between the two is that everyone should be in Griffiths but not all are in the Tithe Aplotments but if you know your Barony Parish and Townland from where your folks came they can be a great help. I have certainly found them helpful for my folk in Tipperary The O'Kiefe Cosh Mang one that I mentioned in previous message is fairly similar. The following are web sites which will give you a fuller explanation . www(.)scotlandsclans(.)com(/)cork(.)htm seems to give a lot of Cork info. on Griffiths www(.)fromireland(.)net(/)gene/griffithsval(.)htm Remove brackets. The above site appears to give a more accurate account of what Griffiths Valuation is. There are many other sites of very dubious "accurate" history. Looking at your dates the G and T may or may not help you. Will only help if you are looking for relatives left behind in Ireland. Very difficult to research any irish history back from 1796. Hope this helps. Janet

Hi Janet Thanks very much for the pointers. My James Adams was bc1806 Cork according to the 1871 London census and I think he'd been in London since c1829 so Irish censuses won't be able to help:( I've not heard of the Griffiths thing you mentioned - can you explain please:) Thanks David

David You could try this website for Cork Ancestors. I have found it very useful as all sorts of info on there. Also much genealogical info. http(://)homepage(.)eircom.net(/~)ridgway Remove brackets. Adams is an English sounding name so you could try Protestant records first but as Paticia says you cannot be totally sure but you have to start somewhere. Very few Irish records acually on line but if you can pinpoint a barony/parish/townland from where your ancestors came you can pull in the records from your local LDS Centre otherwise it is a trip to Dublin or Cork. Incidentally the reasonably new record office(County Library) on the outskirts of Cork is very good for research. Also the O'Kief, Cosh, Mang Records are very good. Try www(.)rootsweb(.)com(/)irish(/)igsi_published(/)casey(.)htm You do not mention years but I am assuming that you know about 1901 and 1911 census? Some are online but a bit patchy and incomplete online. Local LDS centre will help here. Also assume you know about Griffiths and Tithe applotment? Janet

Sorry Can't believe I left the county off (muppet) - County Cork. Thanks Pat - there was a thread a while ago where some people were saying certain names generally came from certain areas and were often of one religion or the other. Think I'm clutching at straws a bit... David:)

David, As Adams is originally a British name it would be more likely looking back in the past that the person would be Protestant, as most British and Scottish names in Ireland would be from whats was known as the landed gentry. Most Irish names from way back would more than likely be Catholic. I would say its not cut and dried as there was always inter- marriage both sides of the border but I would start with protestant. But If wrong I will stand corrected. Pat x

Anyone know if an Adams from Cork is likely to be Protestant or RC or either? David