Genealogy Chat

The date was probably not an error, more likely they lost the previous certificate or needed a duplicate for some reason.

Sue I have found a copy of my G Grandfathers death cert and he didnt die during the war, he died in 1958 at the age of 79, So I think that the date on the marriage cert must of been an error Louise

Louise Was your Great Grandfather killed in WW1? The reason I ask is that I have a copy of my husband's Grandparents marriage certificate dated after Grandfather was killed in WW1, seven years after they were married. Grandmother had to produce it to prove she was entitled to a widow's payment. Sue

WOW A real big thank you, Ive been trying to find this information for ages, I cant believe youve managed to find all this info so quickly. I have a lot to go on now. Thanks again to you all Louise

Louise, I think this is his birth reference: Births Dec 1878 Grey Richard Atcham 6a 681 Crista

In 1881, it says Thomas is his uncle. Thomas GRAY Head M Male 54 Ireland Paviour Sarah GRAY Wife M Female 57 Ireland Thomas GRAY Son U Male 19 Shrewsbury Paviour James GRAY Son U Male 17 Shrewsbury Errand Boy George GRAY Son U Male 14 Shrewsbury Errand Boy Richd. GRAY Nephew Male 3 Shropshire, England Source Information: Dwelling No 11 Masons Passage Census Place Shrewsbury St Chad, Shropshire, England and in the same parish there's a married soldier named Robert. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Robert GRAY Soldier M Male 43 Ireland Sergeant Shropshire Militia Source Information: Institution The Barracks Copthorne Census Place Shrewsbury St Chad, Shropshire, England and then a wife in other household: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Annie GRAY Wife Of Soldier M Female 28 Maidstone, Kent, England Wife Of Soldier Catherine GRAY Daughter Of Soldier U Female 2 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Agnes GRAY Daughter Of Soldier Female 2 m Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Annie LEADER Niece Of Soldier U Female 10 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Source Information: Institution The Barracks Copthorne Census Place Shrewsbury St Chad, Shropshire, England Family History Library Film 1341637 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2654 / 111 Page Number 20 Crista

Hi Louise In 1891 Richard was living in Shrewsbury with his grandfather: 8 Victoria Terrace, Shrewsbury: Thomas Gray, Head, m, 65, Pavior, b. Ireland; Sarah Gray, Wife, m, 67, b. Ireland; George Gray, Son, s, 23, General labourer, b. Salop, Shrewsbury; Richard Gray, Grandson, 12, Scholar, b. Salop, Shrewsbury; Louisa Gray, Granddaughter, 8, Scholar, b. Salop, Shrewsbury. This should be enough to be able to find Richard's birth certificate, which will give his father and mother. Perhaps they died some time after Louisa was born, i.e. 1882-91. Regards Stan

Thank you for your replys the info on the marriage cert is as follows Richard Gray-30-Postman-Market Drayton-Father Richard Gray-Carpenter Alice Eliza Price-22-Market Drayton-Father Griffith Price-Stockman They were married in St Oswald Church in the parish of Hinstock in county of Salop They were married June 1st 1909 my copy of the cert is dated 12 OCt 1914 I also found that Alice Price lived in Carlton Cottage Smithfield Road Market Drayton in 1910 I would really appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction Thanks Louise

Louise The wedding certificate you have will provide information on both bride and groom's parents and when and where they married may be an indication on where to look next. FreeBMD isn't complete yet, but the 1880s is pretty good. It is likely that if you can't find your relative there or on censuses that he has been mistranscribed. Have you tried looking for Grey/Graye etc. I was a Gray myself before I married and I've been lucky in that all my relatives were Gray in all documents, but their first names have been wrongly recorded quite often. Give us more details and I'm sure help will be forthcoming. Helen

Louise, Add all the details you have from the marriage cert here and perhaps someone can help. Crista

I have have got the marriage cert for my G Grandfather who was born in the 1880s, I have looked on 1901 census and found a Richard Gray living in Market Drayton with his uncle I do know his fathers name was also Richard but there is no one else in the area with that name, also his uncle was born in Ireland. Does any one have any ideas about where else I could look to find some more information on my family, I even drove to Market Drayton and spent the whole day looking around the Cemetry, I have tried 1881 census 1901 and the Bmd index,. but still had no luck.