Genealogy Chat

Provided this has been indexed correctly, I think this means that the 1958 child is not a sibling of the other 2, who may, or may not be siblings to each other. The mother may not have been married but by chance it could be that both maiden and married names are the same. One can never assume anything in this game! ... Sometimes you can read something into indexes which just shouldn't be there. My nephew married a Miss P...... A couple of years later the indexes show a child born and then 2 years later, another. Both are under the correct surname, with mother's maiden name P......As they are an unusual name combination one could easily think they were my nephew's children, but that marriage was childless.

so if i have two children born [one in 1954 and one in 1956] with surname and mothers maiden name the same that means mother was not married?because i have found third child to have same surname but different mothers maiden name included [and they were born 1958]

Louise 1. The mother's name on the birth cert is the name she is known by. If she was married at the time of the birth, the certificate will give her married name and put her maiden name too. If the father's name is on the cert and is different then they weren't married. If there is no father on the cert, the child is almost certainly illegitimate. 2. Don't know about Irish BMDs but a search on Google may help you. 3. Deaths in prisons and lunatic asylums and other institutions are all registered like any other deaths. Helen

Not sure about the Dr Barnardos question. I suppose if the baby was actually born in a mother and baby home someone from the home might have registered the birth (but it would still have mothers name) otherwise I should think the birth would already have to have been registered by the mum before the baby went to Dr Barnardos home. Births have to be registered within 40 days of the birth I think. Good luck with your search Judith

that makes sense,surpose you dont know that if you were bought up in dr barnardos whether they would register you or not

In the early days of registration an mother could name the father on the birth certificate without him agreeing, later the ruling came in that he could only be named if he went to the registry office. If parents are married child is registered with dad's surname, if both are named though unmarried, child may be given either surname, if only the mother is named the child has mum's surname though sometimes you find the dad's surname has been given as a second christian name. Just a thought, the mothers maiden name might also be the same as the child's surname because she married a cousin or someone else with the same surname as herself.

i have been told that when veiwing birth registers,if the mothers maiden name is the same as the surname then this means that the mother was not married is this true and if so was there anyway in the 50's that the mothers name could be put on even if she wasnt. And one last thing ive been told that in the 1950's the irish had a "movement" and quite a few moved over to london etc if so how do i go about finding out about births and marriages over there,oh and one more thing, this will be the last i promise, if you died in a prison in the 70's in london area would it be registered like normal or is there some kind of special registry place that i have to look up