Genealogy Chat

Brenda, Wow!!!! Thats brilliant, Im sooo pleased for you and a tad jealous too.Wish there were a few more sites like that. I cant wait till the next time I go up home as I will be paying Kelsall and nearby Tarvin a visit. Was up in Chester three times last year, but didnt know then that some of the ancestors came from the area, drat!! Kathleen

kathleen just been on kelsall site fantastic found ralph age 1 on 1871 and 11 on 1881 much appreciated brenda x

helen ive looked at the image and it definitely says born Kelsall Thanks to kath i now know where that is it isnt too far from bebington then irene its a !! isnt it. i wonder why on 1891 it states born bebington and all her children born bebington. 1901 shes born kelsall and all children bebington. do you know the coincidence is too great not to be her so now i must try and find her birth. i do know her marriage details so ill send for marriage cert and hopefully get her fathers name. as i say there are 2 sarah johnsons born bebington on 1881 both aged 18 which is about right if she was 27 on the 1891. thanks for help brenda x

I've always wondered what questions were asked, the difference could be where were you born, and where are you from. I've had the same on my g grandfather who I have still not traced, 3 censuses and 3 different places, Camberley and Aldershot, close, and Petersfield bit further out. Then of course there's the question did they know where they were born. If the parents moved when they were young then chances are they didn't. If they were with their parents when the census came round in their teens then they just might remember. Just recently I have had my gg grandfathers niece born Melcombe regis Dorset, only found her on 1 census (1861) until a week or two ago then I found her in Devizes born Weymouth aged 13 (1871), lost her again now she may have married so still hunting. I must add she was with her stepmother her brother and sister still missing father ill in hospital where he later died. Happy hunting Irene

Hi Brenda, its not too far from Bebbington, just about six miles I think from Chester Kathleen

Brenda 1901 census online you pay to see details of person you pay to see the rest of the household you pay to see the image, which will be the page your person is on with everyone else on that page...but of course your household could extend over two pages. Don't give up. Helen

thankyou kathleen ill have a look at that site, im daft dont know where it is yet. sorry not to have got back sooner the penalty shoot out had me gripped then i went to bed with my cocoa. (im whispering now) Mandy sarah wright, ralph wright, elizabeth, bessie, james (ralphs stepchildren) all living bebington area of Cheshire. thankyou x brenda x ps sarah was sarah griffiths aged 27 on 1891 census born bebington. thanks.

Hi Brenda, dont know if you have ever looked at this site, its fantastic, has the Kelsall census from 1841- 1891 and some parish marriages too. My gggrandfather came from nearby Tarvin and on his baptism cert it says his father was from Kelsall, but so far Ive had no luck finding him. Hope you find something of interest Kathleen http://www(.)the-dicksons(.)org/Kelsall/kelsall/census(.)htm

Brenda, ssssh don't tell everyone, but I can do a 1901 lookup on ancestry for you if you like (only just subscribed so not sure if the area you want is on there though). Hope I can help. Mandy :)

by the way do you happen to know that if i pay to see full image for sarah wright does it only show her and then i have to pay again to see each of the other individuals in the household? ill be mad if i do x

would you believe it helen i thought id lash out to view the full image and maybe see if i could make the words out. this is what i got 'there was an error opening this document the file does not exist!!!!!!!! and theyve charged me for the privilege. another nasty email on its way to 1901 theyll have me down as a troublemaker. dont know when sarah died got to pin her down on birth yet. i will not be beaten (not now im all fired up again) brenda x

Mmm...I see your dilemma. I think you could be right about the census enumerator just putting the same birthplace down - unless it isn't the right Sarah! Don't know what you can do to work this one out. After all the ages could be wrong on both of them! Could you find her death cert and see what her age is on that?

hi helen there could be two possible matches for sarah on 1881 both born bebington cant find one for kelsall. i have all 3 childrens birth certs which say her maiden name was johnson(she signed with an x) so presume she was iliterate oops just like me ILLITERATE all children born bebington and the 3 ive found on the1901 are also born bebington. ive always looked for them under the name of griffiths not knowing she had remarried until 12 months into my search. interestingly her new husband ralph was born in Kelsall do you think the transcriber just put her at same birthplace because he couldnt read the word bebington. the childrens names by the way are elizabeth, bessie, (transcribed bessic) and james. their ages are right too. brenda x

Brenda Never believe anything unless it is independently corroborated! I assume you have not yet found Sarah's birth cert as you are not sure which year(s) to check. When you say the 3 children are all correct, are they the right ages apart with the right names? Even if this is so, unless they had unusual names this could be a coincidence. Have you got her marriage lines and do they state her age? Have you found her on the 1881 census?

im almost sure i have found my gt grandmother, well i had given up on it a while back but id just been paid so i thought go mad give those nice census people some more money. on 1891 census (sarah griffiths age 27 born Bebington) I know this is the right sarah. 1901 census (by which time she had remarried to a ralph wright) Sarah Wright age 40 born Kelsall., i think this is her too as the 3 children she had are living with her and they are all correct. which one do i believe 1891 or 1901? brenda x