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Coincidences or am I onto something?
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Twinkle | Report | 17 Apr 2004 13:22 |
Please see below. |
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Twinkle | Report | 17 Apr 2004 13:28 |
In my tree I have a Jeremiah Presgrave in Lincs. On FreeBMD marriages for Lincs, he is listed on the same page as a Jane Reeson. On the 1881 census, he is married to a Jane. A few years later and there is a birth in Lincs of a Reeson Presgrave. This is too much of a coincidence for Reeson not to be Jeremiah's son. Second Coincidence. From 1881 onwards, four houses in one street seemed to contain all my relatives. I have a mother Elizabeth Hooper with children Francis, George and Amelia in 1881 living there. By 1901, between Elizabeth Hooper's house and George Hooper's house, is a Henry Hooper - with his kids Francis, George and Amelia (among others). Surely this is too much of a coincidence for Henry not to be related in some fashion. |
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}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ | Report | 17 Apr 2004 13:37 |
I'd say so Kathryn. Definitely warrants more investigation. Nice to see you back by the way! Jeanette |
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Unknown | Report | 17 Apr 2004 16:37 |
I have instances of rellies living near eachother in my family tree. Also when I first met my husband's Welsh family, his auntie was living at one end of a small terrace of cottages and his grandparents at the other end, with various aunts, uncles, cousins etc all down the mountainside. Handy for babysitting! |
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Irene | Report | 17 Apr 2004 16:45 |
In the 1851 census for Wiltshire I have rellies living next door to each other, this is before I knew who the daughters married. They certainly did keep an eye on each other then. Irene |
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Annie | Report | 17 Apr 2004 17:24 |
Stands to Reeson really (ouch*) - coincidence 1 Coincidence 2 They seem to be too close for you not to be able to assume. But as you know, you have to check out all eventualities. I click up and down the road a bit when I get census copies, you never know who you might find! Have you done an 1891 check on these people? Best wishes Ann |
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Twinkle | Report | 17 Apr 2004 18:48 |
Various relatives lived in Church St between the 1870s and 1920s - numbers 12 to 15 mainly. I didn't check 1891 for Hoopers because I didn't know that was a relevant surname when I had the Ancestry free trial. Personally, I wish all my relatives were like Jeremiah and Reeson. That same branch has produced Whileys and Hobsons and lots of other wonderfully traceable names! It's such a change, normally I'm up to my eyeballs in Williams. |
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Stan | Report | 17 Apr 2004 19:15 |
Hi Kathryn Please tell us the name of the town or village in which the Hoopers lived if you want to know who was there in 1891. Stan |
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Sue in Sx | Report | 17 Apr 2004 21:00 |
Check them out - I have two families with the same surname in a small village in 1851 - the only two families with that surname, and living in adjoining streets. I thought I had two brothers but it turns out they are not related at all. Sue |
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Twinkle | Report | 17 Apr 2004 23:09 |
Stan - Church Street is in Stoke Damerel (aka Devonport), Devon. |
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Stan | Report | 18 Apr 2004 01:12 |
Hi Kathryn In 1891 there were 149 Hoopers in Stoke Damerel. Elizabeth Hooper lived in the same house as in 1881: 15 Church Street (1 of 3 households) with her remaining unmarried son, George (Elizabeth was 65 in 1881 and George was then 27): Elizabeth Hooper, Head, Wid, 75, Laundress, b. Cornwall Hatt; George Hooper, Son, S, 37, Labour General, b. Devon Devonport. At 14 Church Street lived (again as one of three households): Henry Hooper, Head, M, 34, Labour General, b. Devon, Devonport; Ellen Hooper, Wife, M, 27, b. Devon, Devonport; Francis J. Hooper, Son, 4, b. Devon, Plymouth. This Henry could be the one who was 24 in 1881, when he lived at 59 Tavistock Street with a wife Louisa G aged 24 and a son George H aged 6. The two other children who lived with Elizabeth in 1881 (Francis, then aged 30, and Amelia, then aged 19) are probably as follows: 8 York Place: Francis Hooper, Head, M, 39, General Labourer, b. Devon, Devonport; Florence Hooper, Wife, M, 41, b. Cornwall Gorran. 27Granby Street: Robert G. Croft, Head, M, 32, Boiler Maker, b. Northumberland, Newcastle; Amelia A. Croft, Wife, M, 28, b. Devon, Devonport; Amelia A. Hooper, Step Daur, S, 9, Scholar, B. Devon, Devonport; William J. Croft, Son, 1, b. Devon, Devonport. So Henry was there before George moved to the other side of him. The names in 1901 may be a coincidence, but the repetition of names suggests there was some relationship, and a tradition of naming in the wider Hooper family. Certainly there were several Georges and more than one Francis. Unless you can unravel the links though BMD records I would advise you to avoid making any assumptions - they could be cousins at some considerable remove. I hope this helps though. Stan |
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Twinkle | Report | 18 Apr 2004 12:39 |
Wow, thanks Stan, that must have taken you ages! |