Genealogy Chat

Hi, many thanks to you all for your interest with my problem about Alfred. I`ve already checked on most of the details you`ve all mentioned but thanks for the suggestions anyway. You`ve all let me know that I`ve been working with the right system.And I won`t give up, this brick wall is making me even more determined. many thanks again, Julie ps. Judy... thanks for the article you sent, I found it very interesting.

Hi, Have you found him on 1901 census. he should be at the address Heath Road, London. ( which part of London?) and that will say where he thinks he was born. Then try earlier censuses as well. 1881 census is free on www.familysearch.com and at libraries. happy hunting. Sheila

Could this be Jonathan in 1901? family in "Leicester Formerly Knighton" Forenames, Lastname, Age, Where Born, Occupation Jonathan NORTH, 45, Leicester, Boot & Shoe Manufacturer Kate NORTH, 42, London William NORTH, 19, Leicester, Boot & Shoe Manufacturer Mark NORTH, 18, Leicester, ... Pupil Kate NORTH, 14, Leicester Several Alfreds of the right age, but not enough details to pin him down. Marian

Julie, There is this possible from 1881: Jonathan NORTH Head M Male 43 Wooldale, York, England Shoemaker Elizabeth NORTH Wife M Female 35 Manchester, Lancashire, England Housekeeper Laura NORTH Daur U Female 15 Huddersfield, York, England Millhand (Bobbin Winder Wool) Hannah NORTH Daur Female 9 Wooldale, York, England Scholar Fred NORTH Son Male 7 Wooldale, York, England Scholar Ellen NORTH Daur Female 6 Wooldale, York, England Scholar Harry NORTH Son Male 3 Fulstone, York, England Scholar Emily NORTH Daur Female 11 m Fulstone, York, England Child Source Information: Dwelling Sude Hill Census Place Fulstone, York, England Family History Library Film 1342044 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4372 / 36 Page Number 8 Emma.

His marriage cert should contain details of his father and his proffesion. So you may find him on 1881 ( threre are 19 alfred norths 1873 +- 2 years) he would only be 7 so they are usually near their birthplace. Bob

Julie, Was he married in Hendon in 1902 and what was his occupation? Using those dates and ages you gave this might be him on the 1901 census. Arthur North 27 b Berkhampstead Herts Middlesex Hendon Railway Engine Stoker Crista

Julie, I wonder if he can be found on the 1901 census...this would tell you where he came from and narrow down your searching a bit. I don't have any credits at present but maybe some other member will do a lookup for you. Good hunting. Joan

Julie: Have you tried the LDS site www.familysearch.org? There was also an article I found quite useful, part of it's below....perhaps some of the search tips will help in your search: Hitting Home – Web Searches By Nancy Hendrickson If you’ve given up “real” online research in favor of quick searches, you’re missing the best part of Internet genealogy: the fun of focusing your detective skills and the Net’s limitless resources to turn a tangle of clues into a tidy solution. By researching online, I’ve wrestled some of my toughest problems to the ground. I’ve found distant cousins, regenerated dead-end branches and added hundreds of names, dates and places to the blanks in my family tree. You can, too, if you try these tricks for smarter searches. MASTER SEARCH ENGINE MATH - At some point, every Internet genealogists has used a search engine and gotten thousands of irrelevant results. That’s because search engines are like trained puppies – they fetch whatever you throw them. For instance, if you type JOHN MACKENZIE into a search engine, it will find every page containing the words JOHN and MACKENZIE, but not necessarily in that order. That means you’ll get results such as John Thompson who works at the Mackenzie Institute, or Mackenzie Brown, teammate of Gordon John. Would you rather wade through all those irrelevant pages or refine your research to bring back the best bones? Search engine math to the rescue! Most search engines use operators to help refine searches. The most common operators are quotation marks (“ “), the plus sign (+) and the minus sign (-). Here’s how each operator works: QUOTATION MARKS: Use quotation marks when you want to find an exact phrase. In the example above, if we had searched for “JOHN MACKENKIE,” (using quotation marks) the search engine would have looked for instances in which the words JOHN and MACKENZIE appeared side by side, and in that order. When I typed john mackenzie into Google at www.google(.)com, the popular search engine returned 1,260,000 hits. But when I searched for “john mackenzie” (using the quotation marks) I got only 19,600. That’s still a lot, but don’t worry – we’ll refine our search even more. PLUS SIGN: Use the plus sign (or the word AND) when you want the search engine to look for multiple words or terms. Let’s pretend that you’re trying to locate John Mackenzie’s records relevant to his life in Massachusetts. Your search would look like this: “john mackenzie” +massachusetts or “john mackenzie” AND massachusetts or “john Mackenzie” +MA. (Be sure to try more searches using variant spellings or abbreviations.) The plus sign (+) or word AND tells the search engine to return only the matrches for “John Mackenzie” that also include Massachusetts, weeding out all the others. MINUS SIGN: The minus sign (-) tells a search engine to exclude a specific word. If your search for “John Mackenzie” returned hundreds of John Mackenzie’s who lived in Maine, and you want only those who lived in Massachusetts, here’s how you’d construct the search: “John Mackenzie” +Massachusetts –Maine. (Search engines are not case sensitive, so it’s not necessary to use capital letters when searching.) Two more helpful operators are OR and NEAR. Use OR when either of two words is appropriate, and you want the search engine to find all instances where either word appears. For example, you might use this operator if John Mackenzie’s nickname was Jack. By typing “john mackenzie” OR “jack mackenzie” into the search engine, you’ll find any pages that include either his given name or his nick name. (Of course this operator might give you more search results.) Although it doesn’t work with all search engines, NEAR is another helpful operator. NEAR tells the search engine that your search terms must be in proximity to one another (usually within 10 words.) When would you use NEAR? If John Mackenzie’s middle name was Albert and you searched for “john mackenzie” the search engine wouldn’t return pages with the name John Albert Mackenzie. To make sure that the engine returns all pages with his full name, too, you could search for JOHN NEAR MACKENZIE. Check the Advance Search or Help section of your favorite search engine to learn more about the operators it uses. That way, you’ll get fewer irrelevant hits the next time you search. **Next: Refining Your Search

Hi everyone, I`m having a big problem trying to find my gr grandfather. Can anyone give me some advice on what to do next Please. His name is Alfred North. I have a copy of his marriage cert. Which give name, address 37 Heath street,London and age 29yrs. I`ve lloked up his death on 1837 site. Died 1941 in Fulham aged 68yrs. I know that his father was a shoe maker from family and thats also on the wedding cert as fathers occupation. Name Jonathan North. The family didn`t come from London , Probably Northamptonshire area as told to me by my father. But I`m not so sure now as I just can`t find anything about the birth of Alfred North . What do I do next? Can someone give me any suggestions please. I have a bit of a disadvantage as I´m now living in Austria.Dependant on internet and telphone until I get back to England again fo a holiday. Now Ì`ve written all this down I still can`t see over the brick wall. I`d be grateful for any advice. Many thanks for reading this thread, best wishes Julie