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Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 19 Feb 2004 15:26

I have someone on the 1881 shown as a 'Older Up In Iron Works' !! Its in the East End so there may be a missing H at the beginning. Even so ... what on earth did he do ??!! He was only 24, so no older than anyone else, and if he Held things Up, then what were they ??! Until I can see the original on film, has anyone got any bright ideas please. Thanks. Maz. XX

Shelli4

Shelli4 Report 19 Feb 2004 15:29

Maz only you could find this couldn't you ??? LOL

Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Feb 2004 15:43

perhaps its Hold Up like bank robbing

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 19 Feb 2004 15:45

You lot are a BIG help !!! its James Thomas Leaver in West Ham, Essex if you don't believe me .... Maz. XX

Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Feb 2004 15:47

pffffffffft - well I'll not bother then :oP

kazimet

kazimet Report 19 Feb 2004 16:00

my hubby said he could have been a bra maker lol

Kim

Kim Report 19 Feb 2004 16:17

Seriously now , there is a reference on an american website to the holder men at a gas works .they went up the gas holders to shovel snow off them perhaps take a look cached on google page webpages.ursinus.edu/rrichter/whyworks.htm click on the grey cached bit and it explains. Could be connected, might not , but worth a look in absece of anything else. KIM

Geoff

Geoff Report 19 Feb 2004 16:31

Peraps e eld fings up on a hanvil so another bloke could it it wiv a ammer.

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 19 Feb 2004 16:37

Thanks to everyone for your helpful suggestions !!! However, Zoe has put me straight now - she googled 'holder up' and 'ironworks' and found it ... He DID hold somthing up - steel plates - while someone else put rivets in ! He would've been employed at Thames Ironworks - origin of West Ham United - making ships including HMS Warrior etc. Thanks to you all, made me roar with laughter !! Maz. XX

Mary

Mary Report 19 Feb 2004 17:33

Maz Can I put a spanner in the works and suggest Solder up. Mary

Anne

Anne Report 19 Feb 2004 20:15

Hi Maz My little book gives..... Holder-on.. Part of a two man team who rivets large steel girders together. the other team members being the 'hammer riveter'..... Could be a slight variation of job name. Anne