Genealogy Chat

Thanks Martin. I might just come across him and the others one day. Shirley

I have not looked at many of the 1881 pages (usually use the CD-ROM) but in other years there are special pages for institutaions. There is a title page that identifies the institution then pages to list the inmates. Martin

Anne I see what you mean. I tried various combinations and had 2 which fitted age but right out of area. As you say, it was very sad to see. Thanks for advice. Shirley

Shirley When I said initials I meant initials only! In this case GS. It wouldn't be much help if you found one though because you could never be sure it was the right one. GS could stand for anything. That's why I was so shocked. To see pages and pages of just two initials was very saddening. Anne

Anne I have tried C G SIMPSON < G SIMPSON nothing came up. I tried C. Glover and Charles Glover. Not having much luck. In 1881 his wife is down as married and living on Settlment. Seems strange. Do not seem to be getting anywhee. Shirley

Regarding hospitals, I recently came across a county asylum in the census. There were over 1000 inmates and they were only identified by their initials! I was shocked but I guess that's how it was in those days. If an ancestor was there it would be almost impossible to identify them but the search on 1881 does come up with initials if you put them in. Try it! Anne

Dave Thanks for your help. in 1871 He was with wife Mary M age 34 Willie age 6 Caroline A age 5 Thomas G age 3 Alice M M age 8 months St Olave Southwark In 1881 Mary Martha Simpson Thomas age 13 Emma age 8 Rotherhithe Wife living on settlement. 1891 Charles G Simpson And Mary Martha Simpson back together. I wonder where he was in between?

Hi Shirley, Is Charles one of these:- Charles SIMPSON Head M Male 49 London City Of, Middlesex, England House Painter Jane SIMPSON Wife M Female 42 Marylebone, Middlesex, England No Occupation Jane SIMPSON Daur U Female 19 Holborn, Middlesex, England General Servant Henry SIMPSON Son Male 12 Holborn, Middlesex, England Scholar Mary Ann SIMPSON Daur Female 10 Holborn, Middlesex, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 57 Ely Ter Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341106 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0481 / 81 Page Number 19 Charles SIMSON Head M Male 48 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Bricklayer Louisa SIMSON Wife M Female 36 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Georgina SIMSON Daur U Female 16 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Sewing Machinist Thomas SIMSON Son Male 13 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Errand Boy At Surgeons Arthur SIMSON Son Male 8 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Scholar John SIMSON Son Male 4 St Georges East, Middlesex, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 4 Walburg Pl Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341099 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0456 / 95 Page Number 7 Dave

Thanks Checked out names of children and it is not them. Shirley

This is the only Charles G Simpson listed around that time. Hospitals, Prisons, Ships etc are also included in the Censuses. Dwelling: Sparrows Hall Census Place: Hatfield Broad Oak, Essex, England Source: FHL Film 1341438 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1814 Folio 44 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles G. SIMPSON M 45 M Little Hadham, Hertford, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 80 Acres Employing 2 Men & 1 Boy Ann SIMPSON M 42 F Manuden, Essex, England Rel: Wife Charles SIMPSON 15 M Holloway, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Farmers Son Mary SIMPSON 12 F Stanstead, Essex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Walter SIMPSON 10 M Manuden, Essex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alice SIMPSON 7 F Manuden, Essex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar William SIMPSON 5 M Manuden, Essex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Ann SIMPSON 4 F Manuden, Essex, England Rel: Daur Albert SIMPSON 2 m M Hatfield Broad Oak, Essex, England Rel: Son

If someone was in hospital or in prison (perish the thought) would they still be on 1881 census? I am looking for Charles Glover Simpson b 1832/3 Middlesex who disappeared along with 3 of his children and reappeared in 1991 Southwark but not with any children although by then they could all have been married. Shirley