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Ellen

Ellen Report 27 Sep 2003 14:34

My great aunt Ellen Proctor married a Shirley Herbert Harper in 1890 (Worcester) He is described as railway clerk born in Brentford Middlesex 1865. Now the only Shirley Harper I can find in 1901 is the right age also a railway clerk but described as a naturalised french subject! Any ideas how I can find if this is the same person. Thanks Helena

Janet

Janet Report 27 Sep 2003 14:47

Hi Helena, Have copied and pasted the info below from the 1881 cenus - no mention of French on there if it is the same person. I notice that they have got poor Shirley as a Son U Female. Mary HARPER Head W Female 44 Hazler, Shropshire, England Eugenie HARPER Daur U Female 21 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Percy HARPER Son U Male 20 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Railway Clerk Shirley H. HARPER Son U Female 16 Brentford, Middlesex, England Railway Clerk William I. HARPER Son U Male 12 St Peter, Worcester, England Scholar Rosalind M.L. HARPER Daur Female 6 St Peter, Worcester, England Scholar Henry PEACH Lodger U Male 25 Moreton In Marsh, Gloucester, England Boot & Shoe Salesman Lucy PEACH Sister U Female 27 Moreton In Marsh, Gloucester, England Boot & Shoe Saleswoman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 21 Wylds Lane Census Place Worcester St Peter, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341699 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2918 / 109 Page Number 19 Don't know if this will help at all. If it is the right one I notice the mother was born in Hazler, Shropshire and the rest of the children are all down as being born in England Janet

April

April Report 27 Sep 2003 16:28

HI Helena I found your Shirley H Harper on the 1891 age 26 , railway ? born Brentwood Middlesex also Ellen 26 born Worcester, they were living St Mary's Paddington, Hope this is of help April

April

April Report 27 Sep 2003 16:37

Helena I just looked on the 1901, and found the Shirley Harper, living in Slough,I searched for Ellen and found a Nellie 36 born Worcester also living in Slough, I dont seem to be able to check the no IDs to see if they are together. Nellie Harper 36 Worcester Worcestershire Buckingham Slough Shirley Harper 36 Naturalozer French Subject Buckingham Slough Railway Clerk G W R

Janet

Janet Report 27 Sep 2003 18:50

The page ID's on the 1901 are the same for Nellie and Shirley i.e. 62551280 Janet

Ellen

Ellen Report 27 Sep 2003 21:30

Thank you all for the information. It has been a great help. I think I can safely assume that the Nellie and Shirley on the 1901 in Slough are the right ones. However it is puzzling that he is described as french. I have checked the 1837 and found his birth details in England the same as the 1881, 1891 and his marriage record. Born in Middlesex. Do you think it has been wrongly transcribed or maybe he stretched the truth for some reason? Thank you all again. Helena