Genealogy Chat

Oh yes Joy, the daughter of Louisa and William was my OH's Gt grandmother. Born Elizabeth, on her marriage certificate, name of bride Elizabeth Masters. Signed by Sarah Masters. she was always known as Sarah!!! she led me a dance ! Ann Glos

I think, Ann, people's names changed just to confuse us sometimes!

Bryan in Glos where in glos??

Thank you all for your interest. Sorry to disappear, had to have dinner and then watch the soaps!!! Thank you for the 1841 I guess that is she. Joy, yes Louisa married William Masters, i have the marriage certificate. i too found that Mary and wondered, but her marriage cert was in the name Louisa and in the 1861 she was Louisa. Unless the head of the house called her Mary of course they did sometimes change the names of their servants. Maybe that is the answer. thank you again. This is OH's tree not mine and is so confusing! Ann Glos

Dog with a Bone : There is an odd entry in the IGI for a Louisa Maria ARAM born 12 June 1831 baptised 15 Nov 1840 at St Luke, Chelsea, London to George ARAM and Elizabeth. Batch C067054.

Me again Unless there were a lot of ORAMS around there I guess this is her hiding under the name of Mary. The HIGGINS family did not have a daughter called Louisa so I don't see why the name change unless she had two given names. 1851 Ho107-1935 folio 90, F Street (Front Street I guess) Butleigh Alexander HIGGINS family (him a carpenter emp. 20 men Mary ORAM Servant U 20 House Servant SOM Butleigh Pubs open.

Is it possible she had a second name Mary? and was sometimes known as Mary? I ask this because in 1851 there is a Mary Oram: Name: Mary Oram Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Butleigh, Somerset, England Civil parish: Butleigh County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Wells Sub-registration district: Glastonbury Household Members: Name Age James Barry 20 James Haines 20 Alexander Higgins 33 Alexander Higgins 10 Ameliea Higgins 9 Edward Higgins 7 Sarah Higgins 36 William Higgins 5 Mary Oram 20 George Young 18

There is a marriage December quarter 1852, Wells district, for a Louisa Oram to a William Masters.

1841 Wells Union Workhouse Name: Louisa Aram Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: St Cuthbert In and Out Hundred: Wells Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Wells Sub-registration district: Wells Household Members: Name Age Charles Aram 2 Elie Aram 6 Elizabeth Aram 30 John Aram 55 Louisa Aram 10 Sarah Aram 5

Here is the rest of the family in 1851 - not seen Louisa yet. May she be married? 1851 census Ho107-1935 folio 79, Pond Head, Butleigh Somerset Elizabeth ORAM Head Widow 51 SOM Butleigh Richard do Son Un 22 Ag Lab SOM do Eli do Son Un 16 do SOM do Susan do Dau 14 SOM do Charles do Son 12 Farm Boy SOM do Sarah do Dau 8 SOM do Frederick BUXTON Lodger Mar 29 Blacksmith SOM Glastonbury Mary Ann do Lodger Mar 28 SOM Walton Elizabeth do Lodger 8 SOM Compton

Ann I tried in 1841 and omitted any surname and the first entry was what I guess ir the right one: 1841 census Ho107-962-9 folio 57, Wells Union Workhouse, John ARAM 55 P (Pauper?) Stone Cutter Yes (could be ORAM) Elizabeth ARAM 30 P Labourer Yes Louisa ARAM 10 P Yes Eli ARAM 6 P Susan ARAM 5 P Yes Charles ARAM 2 P Bryan (in Glos)

1841 - listed as Oram in the Wells Union Workhouse - have pm'd Name: Louisa Aram Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil Parish: St Cuthbert In and Out Hundred: Wells Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Registration district: Wells Sub-registration district: Wells Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Aram 2 Elie Aram 6 Elizabeth Aram 30 John Aram 55 Louisa Aram 10 Sarah Aram 5

Hi, I have been searching all over for Louisa Oram born c 1830 Somerset (probably Butleigh). .............................. I have tried some variations such as Dram, Oran, Oren etc with no luck........................................... I have found who I think is her Mother Elizabeth Oram widow aged 51 in 1851 and I found her on 1851 but not 1841..................... Can anyone help please............................................................................................... I am going off now to get dinner, if anyone can help would you please PM me t remind me to check back here. many thanks. Ann Glos