Genealogy Chat

If you apply to GRO online and your checking points are wrong, they will keep some of your money just for looking. If you apply direct to the local register office, and give one or more checking points, if it is wrong, they will return all your money. Dont forget to include a stamped addressed envelope. You can find the address of the local register office here http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/RegOffice/

This is Samuel's wife Annie in 1901 mistranscribed Annie Arther Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Separated Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Annie Arther 34 Annie Arther 1 Fred Arther 16 Naman Arther 3 Nellie Arther 12 Sam Arther 6 Willie Arther 10 Jno Wm Kirby 31 Alexr Shipman 6 Charlie Shipman 13 Ethel Shipman 8 Kate Shipman 32 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4219; Folio: 27; Page: 6. all the other people listed are actually in the house next door.

Reg Thanks for enlightening me on base born! Am northern lass and a shovels a shovel!!!!! Thanks again Jackie

Summer Scribe Thanks for your info on possibilities for Constance, never thought of writing to each relevant register office, sure am newbie and dumbo, thanks for your help jackie

Jackie To answer your question.........'base born' is certainly another way of saying illegitimate Reg

Reggie Harvery Yes, got Constance Archers fathers name from marriage cert. He wasn't recorded as 'deceased' on cert. Thanks for info will keep in mind about inventing 'dad's' will keep that one in mind. Also thanks for info on Index and checking points Much appreciated everyone for your help Regards Jackie

Susan Ross Thanks for info on Samuel married to Annie (re Constance Archer) I know absolutely zilch about Constance apart from fathers name. On 1901 Census Samuel was in Leeds, states married but no one else with him. Am I being really thick - does base mean illigitimate? Thanks again Jackie

If this is the birth to which you refer, your best bet is to order it from the GRO.............if you know her mother's forename, quote that as a checking point. If it's the wrong person, you will be refunded part of your £7.00 Name: Constance Archer Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Belper County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 704 Reg

Did you get the father's name from Constance's marriage cert? If so, the info may not be accurate...........particularly if he was 'deceased' at the time of the marriage........illegitimate children often invented 'fathers' for their marriage lines. Reg

Hi Jackie Found your Samuel in 1891 married to Annie. Do you by any chance know anything about Constance Archer's mother? Wondering if she maybe base born and registered under Mum? Sue

If you have several 'possibles' then you could try individual registry offices with the checking info of father's name. That way if it doesn't match then you don't pay. Not all Registry Offices do them for family history but it doesn't hurt to write to find out. Remember you don't need the vol and page number that you do with the GRO. Of course, you could be unlucky and still get the wrong one if someone had a father with the same name too.

Sorry Heather, Janice and Reggie Couldn't fatham out how to add reply - eh dumbo I am. It's bluming Constance Archer (again Heather) b c 1905 Father Samuel - he lived in Leeds in 1901 but not with a wife (according to Census) although he's down as married. He was a boiler maker. The Leeds Constance has a different father Spoke to the Belper Register office re Constance Archer, Belper, they couldn't find any records of her anywhere. Don't know where to go from here Regards Jackie

Without a few more details, it's difficult to give proper advice........ Give us at least some idea of time-scale........ Reg

Give us all the details - and the certs you have bought and found to be incorrect and why they are incorrect. :)

Hi Jackie, Do you want to put up some info and let us try to help you? Or, when you order a cert ask for the father's name to be checked. That way you won't lose all your money if it's the wrong reference. Janice

Have year of birth but don't know where, are various same names but I only know father, please can anyone tell me if there is anyway of checking without keep shelling out for incorrect birth certs please, please am going mad, spent hours on sites and local studies - thanks in advance Jackie Can't you tell I'm a newbie!!!! Hi Heather, Janice & Reggie Its Constance Archer (still not found right one!) b c 1905 Father Samuel Archer Tried the Belper Register Office, gave them Qrt and year, they can't trace it. Ordered Constance b. Leeds 1909 - wrong one I desperateley want to find this lady for my dad's sake. Thanks