Genealogy Chat

apparently the boards are going to be shut down while genes does work on them. in this case i will be able to check my certificates for an occupation etc and will hopefully reply later tonight. thanks to all. will be back on this evening.

wendy, i managed to see minimal info on the 81 census such as ages. they are together in alphington,devon in 1881. they have four sons, James brn 1874 ( my rellie), John brn 1876, William 1878 and albert with no age. does that mean that william was under 1? i cannot see any occupation or other deatails for them. it would be great if you could check this for me. glaad to hear it's not just me! :)

yes sorry pete that is them i have the cert in my records, unfortunately do not have access to them at the moment. i will look as soon as possible. sorry meant to say 72, i typed the first message incorrectly. thanks.

1871 Name: Jane Underhill Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Dawlish, Devon, England Civil Parish: Dawlish Ecclesiastical parish: Dawlish Town: Dawlish County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Teignmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 189 Household Members: Name Age Olivia Knighton 81 Catherine Manning 18 Grace Teig 53 Sarah Tyndall 35 Jane Underhill 22 Agnes B Webb 21 Lucy E Webb 59 James Westcott 16 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2073; Folio: 20; Page: 31; GSU roll: 831777.

According to FreeBMD the marriage occurred in 1872. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1872 >>FAGAN Adam Exeter 5b 113 Pratt Charles Thomas Exeter 5b 113 >>Underhill Jane Exeter 5b 113 White Mary Ann Exeter 5b 113 Adam's occupation at time of marriage will be useful.

thanks Glitter baby, yes that is her. her father was George underhill and mother was Elizabeth Hutchings-ware born in woodbury. thank you ever so much. so there is no chance he was living with them then. thanks leanne

Janes year of birth varies on 1881 to what is showing on 1891 and 1901 1861 could this be her Name: Jane Underhill Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Dawlish, Devon, England Civil Parish: Dawlish Town: Dawlish County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Teignmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 241 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Underhill 1 mo Elizabeth Underhill 39 Woodbury George Underhill 38 Dawlish George Underhill 6 Jane Underhill 12 John Underhill 10 Mary Underhill 8 William Underhill 3 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1401; Folio: 65; Page: 43; GSU roll: 542807. 1851 Name: Jane Underhill Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Dawlish, Devon, England Civil Parish: Dawlish County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Teignmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Underhill 29 George Underhill 29 Jane Underhill 2 John Underhill 1 Mo Sarah Ware 60 lodger Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1870; Folio: 113; Page: 10; GSU roll: 221018.

thanks heather and wendy. heather, unfortunately i don't have the certificates to hand at the moment, i don't think he was in the army will have to check and let you know. Wendy, i know that Jane was born in Newton abbott, which is close to where their children were all born and she is on the 51,61 and 71 census but because i am not a member of ancestry i can't view the record to see who she is with.nice to see another fagan hunter. i found my mother's side of the family with no problems at all, it's the fagan's who are proving more difficult. thanks Leanne

Well if you cant find him on the 1871 and he married in 1873 the chances are he turned up during that period. Not a military man I take it - wouldnt have been in army during that time? Quite late to marry for a first time.

grt,grt,grt grandfather was Adam Fagan born in Newry/Leivey Ireland arnd.1837. from his marriage cert, i know his fathers name was either adam or adain (not sure,can't totally read the writing). I know that adam brn 1837 was in Pirbright,surrey,england by 1873 when he married Jane Underhill. his place of residence is the barracks. Many people have looked for him on 41,51,61 and 71 census' with no luck. i have also heard there are no passenger lists of those coming from ireland to england in that period. thought perhaps may have come over in famine. is there any other way i might find when he came to england or can i search for army records anywhere. am a relative amatuer and getting very frustrarted. any help would be appreciated.thanks leanne