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i'm not too sure about that one Rose, he's 32 yrs in 1881 and Marys 35yrs(see 1st thread) and theres no mention of a daughter Ann....moe

Is this Michael in 1871?

1871 England Census
about Michael Foy
Name: Michael Foy
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Cheetham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral
Town: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
Edwd Connor 45
Ann Foy 1
Mary Foy 25
Michael Foy 26
Elizabeth Holden 36
Elizah Holden 34
Emily Holden 8 months
Mary Holden 5
Robert M Mann 50

Rose

just seen your reply and i do think thats them, as patrick jr spent the rest of his life in Paul st...moe

Jill. the main problem is Patrick and Margarets deaths, i can't find them anywhere, they have a daughter Margaret by 1871 and from then on its just Patrick a widower with daughter Margaret, the problem is he becomes years younger, he's 40 in 1861 and 30yrs in 1871 with a different job, so i think i was tracing someone else from the same area,both with a daughter margaret born around the same time, i am trying through the brothers marraiges to see if he is still alive or not, hope its not too confusing, i'm going from memory as i've just moved and most of my notes are still packed away somewhere!....moe

1871 - found what could be Patrick - widowed - but Patrick junior only showing as 13 (wonder if this was a misreading of the form with him as 18?). Address is 38 Court 4 house Paul Street, Liverpool.

Details:

Patrick Foy
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Howard Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Foy 4
Patrick Foy 30
Patrick Foy 13
John Hughes 50
Caroline Morgan 3
Margaret Morgan 40
Patrick Morgan 50

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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3768; Folio: 69; Page: 30; GSU roll: 841883.

Just had a look at 1861 - the youngest child Patrick was aged 7 and born in Ireland so likely that parents married in Ireland and came to England some time after 1854.

Jill

these 2 are the brothers of my gg grandfather, so i have only just started on them, i have them on 1861 with parents PATRICK and MARGARET FOY at 16 ADDISON ST Lpool, no certs for the children yet as i'm more interested in the father of theirs Patrick...moe

What about the children's birth certs?

Ozi.

Have you found them on any earlier censuses?

rose, i do know the brothers had been in liverpool as children so i think its fair to say they married there, i have found a few possibles on free BMD but i want to make sure i'm ordering the right certs....moe

Seeing as both all spouses were Irish this might be tough. Your best bet is to order one of the birth certs.

Rose

i am trying to find the marraige details of these 2 brothers
this is the census info.

1881
JAMES FOY 40yrs corporation labourer (road) IRE
HELEN FOY wife 38yrs IRE
MICHAEL FOY lodger 32yrs dock lab IRE
MARY FOY wife 35yrs
HELEN FOY dau 9yrs lpool lancs
JOHN FOY son 3yrs Lpool lancs
court 4 house 1 gasgoyne st liverpool

this is all i have...thanks...moe